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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fade to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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for

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the

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masses

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i am and today's wednesday

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august 3rd 2022.

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the annex

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game changer networks racehobbs

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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how you doing

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i barely made it

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fresh off the set i haven't changed this

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is it

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and uh

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yeah yeah what a what a busy day today

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i popped a live stream up earlier if you

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want to check it out over on facebook uh

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where i was and what i was doing i was

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shooting a film today

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and uh it was a lot of fun and uh more

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on that in just a bit um amazing crew

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i've been i've been pretty blessed

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working with professionals you know when

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you have a you know just a pro

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pro crew like that it was it was it was

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insane it was great

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yeah man and i'll tell you more about it

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later because i can't talk about it

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um but uh once the trailer uh gets

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released and and that stuff happens then

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uh i'll speak uh about uh what what

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things are about and what's going on of

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course you know we'll promote it here on

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the show but a lot of fun very

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professional very cool okay um and i'll

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circle around to that now because

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basically

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that's it so you get what you get and uh

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it's a good thing this show uh

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is free

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today

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i'm gonna just tell you that right now

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and uh he's gonna be with us at the

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bottom of the hour and uh so there you

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go let's uh let's get straight to it

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tonight isaac arthur is here we're going

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to be talking about time travel tomorrow

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and i always look forward uh to uh

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thursday night and being able to just

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with uh all of you our friends and

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family here at the show so that's going

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on tomorrow night

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and um i was speaking to a friend of

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mine today

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uh another i don't know what it is with

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another director and producer uh today

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about stuff and

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you need to come up tuesday august 16th

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and and hang out with us at you parsha

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did i say she okay all right so yeah i

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gave that much away

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you need to come out and hang out with

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us too that's tuesday night august 16th

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right here in los angeles actually it's

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in the valley it's studio city

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california

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at uh the u-pars get-together and in

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studio city and tickets and information

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are at uparsla.org

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come and hang out with us and you'll

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meet who i spoke to today

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wouldn't that be fun

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um i love to have dinners and and hang

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out and drink some sky watches and

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things and

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and uh just interesting stuff going on

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in the skies and stuff was popping today

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during the day and anyway love to do

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uh until the end of the year well

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in joshua tree for a private sky watch

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out there we'll we're going to do that

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in joshua tree and also over at giant

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rock all you've got to do is go to

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forbidden club that's with the four

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forbiddenclub.com

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mint 10 nfts

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get your forbidden knowledge black card

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and then you're going to get an

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invitation to come and hang out with us

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okay it's a good to be very small and

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personal and private it's going to be

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so come in and do that billy carson

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myself elizabeth is going to be there

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and i already know uh a few other people

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that are going to be there you want to

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you want to do this this is one of those

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events uh this is a once-in-a-lifetime

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uh event where you're going to be able

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to be with a small group of people

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uh goggles uh for everybody and and and

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and mint those nfts and come and hang

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that's for my birthday

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really looking forward to that and then

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coming up next uh

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the major events will be conscious life

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expo

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and then uh the cruise uh conscious life

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expos in february

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and the cruise that departs here in l.a

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okay so yeah lots of things coming up

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back on track but it just means no more

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for the next six months and plus i've

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between so this is the deal

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so i get the uh the shooting schedule

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from the network and so i've got the

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dates those are blocked out weekends

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everything else that is there so

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that every weekend that i don't have

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something

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i'm shooting

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that's it

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it's now it's back to pre-pandemic

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levels get your free membership right

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now to the unex network it's simple to

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do go to the unx xnetwork.com

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racehobs go to thenxnetwork.com

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rgk

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and you'll receive their monthly

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newsletter you're going to get a blog

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access you're going to get event notices

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and you're going to get a free digital

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copy of their quarterly magazine and

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it's all simple to do just go to the

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xnetwork.com some of you are already

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there go

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and become a member it's simple it's

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free and it's easy

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all right also right now eden pure

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the best man the best the thunderstorm i

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talk about about it every night on the

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show you have to understand this is

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running right now next to me in the

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studio you don't hear it you hear a fan

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running do you hear something you don't

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and this is what it's like in your home

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this is a sound proof studio

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that's it sound

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proof

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okay it's dead nuts quiet in here

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and and that's an international standard

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by the way dead nuts quiet you can look

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it up

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when you go to the standards

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of quietness and soundproofing

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nuts quiet that's how quiet it is in

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here and this is running right next to

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me you can do the same thing in your

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only going to smell it it is going to

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get rid of all of those odors it's going

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to kill viruses you can plug it in the

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wall runs usb put it in your car

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put it in your truck put one in your

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that's right thunderstorm

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it's absolutely incredible i i i can't

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live without mine now i simply can't and

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the promo code for their three pack

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free shipping and you save over two

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hundred dollars on that three pack

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special so click on the link below and

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head over to edenpure

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all right links for everything all of

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our sponsors are in the description box

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below and of course you can visit

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jimmychurchradio.com we've got banners

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and ads over there

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visit all of our sponsors today follow

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me on twitter

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at j church radio

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that's right you can follow isaac arthur

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on on twitter but he's got a messed up

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twitter handle it's like

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um he's got the geek nerd physicist

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twitter handle it's like

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um

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a underscore i underscore arthur

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underscore

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you know he's he's got one of those so

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um i've got it up in twitter you can't

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but i just i i can't even memorize it i

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have to go and look it up

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i and is it because i bet you i know why

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he had to do that

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because everybody is imitating

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isaac arthur and so he's got to have

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that unique thing he's got to have that

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unique thing but go and follow isaac you

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know what i do with isaac i'm going to

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give everybody uh

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uh a tip

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his website is easy

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isaacarthur.net

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that's what i do to get his twitter

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handle i go over to when i

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it is so funny futurism with isaac

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arthur right i can't remember that

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click on that i go over i've got his

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youtube channel i've got his social

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know i do it all the time so head over

284
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to isaacarthur.net everything that you

285
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need is right there

286
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um i didn't have a whole time uh renee i

287
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apologize you did an amazing job today

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on the news but i wasn't here to deal

289
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with it but uh i did get this from renee

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in the breaking news and i wanted to

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share this with you

292
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because apparently

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oh finally going to check this out this

294
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is olivia posting my

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second favorite breakfast cereal

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trader joe's

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maple pecan clusters

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that that right there

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now don't do no almond milk you don't

300
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want to mess it up with oat milk which

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is dirt milk you don't you don't want to

302
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do any of that

303
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you know you want

304
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organic whole milk you don't play around

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ice cold

306
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and that is the best cereal in the world

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well i will interrupt

308
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fade to black

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for trader joe's pecan crunch man

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maple pecan there it is i love that i've

311
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got it

312
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you know what during the break i'm going

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to walk

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into my kitchen and i'm going to come

315
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back with a box trader joe's

316
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maple pecan i think that there's a

317
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captain crunch peanut butter crunch

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shortage

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uh the last

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month

321
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at my local supermarket which is a big

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one

323
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no peanut butter crunch now is it

324
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because that everybody shops at the

325
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store listens to the show and

326
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they know about my love for peanut

327
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butter crunch and they get the urge and

328
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and there's this there's this mad rush

329
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for it at the store

330
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has it been discontinued i haven't

331
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looked at it in the news

332
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why

333
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is there a captain crunch peanut butter

334
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crunch shortage

335
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and are you guys having issues in your

336
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area this is actually a very big deal i

337
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think it's a conspiracy

338
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and i want to hear from all of you

339
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so

340
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chatroom

341
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twitter

342
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facebook let me know somebody text me

343
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is there some news

344
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about peanut butter crunch is there a

345
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peanut butter shortage oh that would be

346
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a disaster right

347
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why can i not buy all the reese's puffs

348
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right

349
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shelves of that i don't want reese's

350
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puffs

351
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it's not that good actually it looks

352
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good on the box but it's it's not that

353
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good peanut butter crunches is the deal

354
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can't buy it

355
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all right

356
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now oh yeah back to the breaking news i

357
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thank you olivia for interrupting the

358
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show

359
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uh that was uh totally awesome

360
00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:00,480
uh trader joe's uh breaking news nasa

361
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is not trusting

362
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private citizens

363
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to travel to the international space

364
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station alone

365
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nope nope they pump the brakes on this

366
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so instead

367
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they will be

368
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chaperoned

369
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by an adult

370
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an experienced

371
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nasa

372
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professional

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new requirements from the agency would

374
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mandate that future space tourist

375
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right

376
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would be led by former astronaut uh

377
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:35,840
former nasa astronauts an astronaut

378
00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:38,320
you like that hey isaac look at me look

379
00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:41,520
at me nastronaut an astronaut you can

380
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use that you can use that on futurism

381
00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:46,320
an astronaut

382
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:48,080
did you write that down

383
00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:50,160
okay he wrote that down all right very

384
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:50,960
cool

385
00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:53,840
yeah nasa says that the new proposals

386
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are lessons learned now i don't know

387
00:19:02,390 --> 00:18:59,039
what happened in the first private

388
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:02,400
astronaut mission to the iss last april

389
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:05,280
um it was complicated i get to i get all

390
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:07,760
that it was put together by axiom space

391
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:10,160
but nasa says no more the crew included

392
00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:13,039
michael lopez alsiera a former nasa

393
00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:14,960
astronaut and current axiom space

394
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:18,559
employee and three civilian crew members

395
00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:20,160
mistakes happened

396
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:21,919
and they don't want this to go down

397
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:23,039
anymore

398
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and each one of these crew members

399
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:28,720
reportedly paid

400
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,640
55 million dollars per ticket

401
00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:34,320
that's a lot of money i mean not ty

402
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:36,160
isaac arthur he's got that big youtube

403
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:39,280
channel huh you know that's 55 mil 55

404
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:42,000
large but but that's a lot of bread man

405
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:43,600
that's a lot of ducks

406
00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:46,080
quacking in the pond all right so nasa's

407
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:47,600
put the brakes on that

408
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:51,280
on this day in history

409
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:53,200
1958

410
00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:55,520
the united states nuclear submarine

411
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nautilus dived at point barrow alaska

412
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:02,880
and then traveled nearly 1 000 miles

413
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:06,400
under the arctic ice cap to reach the

414
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top of the world and the geographic

415
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:10,720
north pole

416
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:13,600
on this day in 1958 now i know that

417
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:15,039
you've thought about this i know that i

418
00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:16,799
have

419
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,880
the thought of being in a submarine for

420
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:20,799
two or three months with a bunch of

421
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:23,840
dudes in a in a sealed tube

422
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:25,600
it just doesn't sound like

423
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:28,640
fun to me it sounds very claustrophobic

424
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:29,679
and

425
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:31,280
plus

426
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:32,799
you know uh

427
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:35,200
how are you gonna smoke cigars in a

428
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:37,760
submarine do they have a cigar room

429
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:39,280
right so how do you do that for three

430
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:42,400
months no weed nothing right so you got

431
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,400
that issue number one

432
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:46,559
but number two

433
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:50,320
the brainiac that thought of

434
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:53,600
under the arctic ice for a thousand

435
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:55,360
miles how do you know you're not gonna

436
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,840
get stuck trapped frozen

437
00:21:02,710 --> 00:20:59,360
whatever how do they know it's a clean

438
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:02,720
path how do they know this

439
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,280
and and you're going to volunteer for

440
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:07,919
that oh

441
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,799
the crew didn't volunteer i just thought

442
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:12,000
of that

443
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:13,760
all right so that's how they got it done

444
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:18,080
because i'd be like no no no

445
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:21,360
thousand miles under the arctic ice

446
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,360
it just doesn't sound like a good idea

447
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:24,799
but they did it

448
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:27,840
all the way back in 1958

449
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,760
on this day fader fact all right now

450
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:34,080
this is

451
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:38,880
um that i know that i say this every

452
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,880
night this is unbelievable this is

453
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:42,159
something that

454
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:44,799
uh has been vetted and you doubt that

455
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:47,440
it's been vetted because it's too crazy

456
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,360
you just think that i've made it up and

457
00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:51,039
that it's it's it's a joke and it's

458
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:53,440
humor and and sometimes it is but

459
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:55,760
they're always pretty unbelievable this

460
00:22:02,390 --> 00:21:57,280
one

461
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:02,400
because it's crazy town and it's much

462
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,640
more detailed than what i'm going to

463
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:06,240
present here

464
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:07,280
but

465
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:08,960
fader fact

466
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:12,159
in 1841

467
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:15,039
france that's right

468
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:17,919
almost broke off relations and they kind

469
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:20,640
of did and they just rebuilt them but

470
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,320
france almost broke off relations with

471
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,360
the republic of texas

472
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:29,600
in 1841

473
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:33,919
they did this due to a hotel owners

474
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:36,559
marauding pigs

475
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:37,919
that's right

476
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:41,280
those marauding pigs

477
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:43,760
ate the french ambassador his name was

478
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:46,320
dubois de salni

479
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,200
the french ambassadors

480
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,039
sheets

481
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:53,280
his bed linens

482
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:56,320
the marauding pigs

483
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,440
ate his sheets

484
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:00,960
that's right

485
00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:04,559
it is known and this is not a joke

486
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,240
it is known as the great pig war of

487
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,200
1841.

488
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:13,039
it's not a joke

489
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:14,400
look it up

490
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,520
that is the craziest out of all the

491
00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:19,360
fader facts and i know what you're doing

492
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,960
right now the great pig war

493
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:23,600
1841

494
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:26,480
search i know what you're doing

495
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,720
it really happened

496
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:31,200
they had to mend those fences man

497
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,799
they had to mend those fences diplomacy

498
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:36,720
had to step in tonight

499
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:39,360
we welcome very special guest our good

500
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:41,840
friend isaac arthur is back

501
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:44,720
and and tonight you know sometimes i did

502
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,240
a a special uh six weeks ago

503
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,039
on time travel and everybody knows my

504
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:53,600
interest in time travel we all are

505
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:55,760
interested in time travel

506
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:58,480
and but sometimes

507
00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:59,840
i need

508
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,880
the scientific mind

509
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:04,960
to bring me back to center

510
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:07,840
to get me off of the fantasy right and

511
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:09,840
just let me know how all of this is

512
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:12,559
possible isaac arthur is here with us

513
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,720
tonight we know

514
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:16,559
that the math

515
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:17,679
says

516
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:19,760
time travel is possible

517
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:22,480
it's it's it's it's right there this is

518
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:23,279
not

519
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,720
hg wells in 1895.

520
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:28,240
all right which is still the best time

521
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:29,679
travel story ever

522
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,240
but it's not that time travel is real

523
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:36,720
and tonight isaac arthur is here with us

524
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,440
we'll be talking about all of that

525
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,000
and of course how

526
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:44,000
how he's going to pay for the next

527
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,440
astronaut mission as an astronaut for 55

528
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,279
million dollars there you go we're going

529
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,960
to do all of that and much more tonight

530
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:52,960
with isaac arthur tomorrow night is

531
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,799
another fader night with open lines all

532
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:56,480
night long can you tell i'm in a great

533
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,279
mood

534
00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:59,120
i was out in the middle of the desert

535
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,760
today in the hot sun

536
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,679
no air conditioning you saw the video

537
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:05,760
that i posted today

538
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,320
um it was incredible the the set of the

539
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:10,480
movie set the the all of that it was

540
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:13,520
absolutely insane but we we shot

541
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,480
in an abandoned home

542
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:18,080
uh cabin

543
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,080
thing

544
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,880
so apocalyptic it was so awesome um and

545
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:25,200
there's no air there was no power there

546
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:27,200
uh it literally

547
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,640
in the middle of the desert i shot um i

548
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:32,799
shot a video so check this out man i got

549
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:35,760
it i got to go i can't be goofing around

550
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:38,400
like this but i shot a video

551
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:39,679
of me

552
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,559
driving through the desert

553
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,279
uh to get to can you see that can you

554
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:47,679
see that that's me driving through the

555
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:50,480
desert this is just to get to the set

556
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,600
look at this

557
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,840
and this took like 20 minutes

558
00:26:02,870 --> 00:25:55,600
open desert

559
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:02,880
no street signs no directions

560
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:08,159
no google maps no gps oh no

561
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:09,440
oh no

562
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:11,200
and uh it's good thing i had a case of

563
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,640
water and uh some fruit snacks

564
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:17,279
um in the back just in case i i brought

565
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:18,240
my

566
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,279
all of that in the jeep just in case

567
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,840
that's what i did today and it was so

568
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:27,360
much fun

569
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,240
all right rivermoonwellness.com

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um i i just want to say this for a

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couple of minutes um

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that's

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a member of the media

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all right

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and uh tv shows radio film

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every aspect from whatever on the

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internet it's all over the place but

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but uh

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over the last 10 years um especially

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uh when we just look at numbers

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i'm i'm speaking to literally

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millions of people

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and then you add that up into a week and

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you just calculate these crazy numbers

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crazy numbers

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i'm a member of the media

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and we have been talking about

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ufos conspiracy et contact

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time travel

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these different aspects of of our little

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community

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for a very long time

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and

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for

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a big chunk of that i really felt

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like

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i was on my own

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in that i couldn't get other members of

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the media to to jump on board it just i

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couldn't i couldn't make it happen i

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tried

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there's a few other radio hosts out

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there and there's some tv shows and

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things like ancient aliens but that's

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not what i'm referring to

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just talking about the talking heads

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and and those that

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um may or may not have an audience as

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big as mine that that doesn't matter but

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if it's a team effort if we all get on

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board you know and i just felt like

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i was i was on my own

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and which you know what in in the end i

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accepted it and it's fine i i realized

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early on

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that

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they were not going to

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assist

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jump on board or consider that's it they

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they just weren't going to do it and

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then the over the last four going on

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five years since 2017

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the media

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has jumped on board not like the way

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that i do it and to that extent but they

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they have and certainly more so than any

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other point in history

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did they do their job right and i have

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i've thought about this a lot and over

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the last uh six months or so i've really

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been thinking about it where they were

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given an opportunity

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any journalist out there any talking

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head any news director any producer of

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any of these shows

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both on television and radio

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if if they just

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reached out they would have all of the

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coverage and news and information that

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they can handle

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but nobody wants to do it

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they just want for these little tidbits

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to come along and they'll cover those

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but

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they won't do it and they were given an

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opportunity they know

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that

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the country and the world wants to hear

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about this subject they want the news

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they know this the the amount of clicks

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and views that they have gotten on the

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coverage over the last five years should

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demonstrate that to them and i can't

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figure out why

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uh it doesn't make any sense but as a

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member of the media i will never give up

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i will never give up and today on set

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and i was just sitting there thinking

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about this once again

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where are all of my media brothers and

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sisters

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where are they

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why is it that i've got to be out here

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on my own it doesn't make any sense and

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others you know but in our community

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but but that's it

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where are they

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church that's why i thank people

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like isaac arthur

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isaac has championed these subjects and

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has has built a very very respectable

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career absolutely incredible so tonight

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our guest is isaac arthur we are talking

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about time travel all of this going down

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on the on x and game changer networks

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this is fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church

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i'll be right back after this short

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is not

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight

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it's time travel we've got isaac arthur

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here with us

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and isaac of course is the host of

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science and futurism with isaac arthur

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on youtube

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with

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700 000 subscribers covering topics like

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colonizing the solar system interstellar

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intelligence and other topics

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representing possible future paths

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and challenges for e.t oh humanity

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i think i think he meant to

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he he wants to say e.t

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one day one day one day one day i need

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to get isaac over the edge and i've got

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a plan

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and i'm gonna make it happen he received

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his degree in physics from kent state

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university graduating top of his class

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at the age of 20 and he remained there

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for graduate studies before joining the

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us army serving in iraq he also worked

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note this as a civilian researcher at

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the air force institute of technology in

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dayton ohio

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where they've got the bodies buried

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isaacarthur.net is the website and i

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black and you know

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it's it's i have fun with this because i

839
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have such mad respect uh for you isaac

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welcome back to the show how are you my

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friend doing great jimmy so glad to be

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back on man man man

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you know what

844
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um before tonight we're discussing

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breakfast cereals with isaac arthur but

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here's the thing

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uh we all have those fond warm fuzzy

848
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:25,599
memories christmas when you're five

849
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,560
right and and those things and when you

850
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:29,599
need

851
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:33,680
that comfortable place that zone

852
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:37,280
that's where you go not me oh no

853
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:39,520
no you know what i do

854
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:42,400
i go back to isaac arthur saying

855
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,040
the fermi paradox great filter number

856
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:46,960
560.

857
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:49,920
and when andy and you get to that point

858
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:51,760
where you at the fermi paradox when

859
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:55,359
you're you're approaching filter 1000

860
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,680
that's my warm fuzzy place isaac

861
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,440
you know that

862
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,520
it's always a fun topic and i'm amazed

863
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,520
that to this day we still keep finding

864
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:07,520
other filters or other ways that might

865
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,200
be getting around those filters it's

866
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:11,440
just it would be so nice if we could

867
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,960
actually get some additional data from

868
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:14,640
help beyond this planet to help us

869
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,119
narrow some of those down a bit more so

870
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,960
it's right around the corner my friend

871
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,960
you know it you know it there is a lot

872
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,720
of action going on

873
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,880
in the world of science and astrophysics

874
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,960
and physics and uh it's a very exciting

875
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:27,920
time

876
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:30,480
and uh it seems to be like a snowball

877
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:32,480
right it's it's just getting bigger and

878
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:34,160
it's out of control

879
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:36,000
and we're at the bottom of the hill you

880
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:38,960
know and here it comes uh and it i think

881
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,880
it's gonna hit us uh from multiple

882
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:43,200
fronts but before we get started

883
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,480
i wasn't kidding

884
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:46,640
about the breakfast cereals thing so i

885
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:49,440
just you know somebody just tweets out

886
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:50,880
uh

887
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,119
you know a breakfast cereal box i lose

888
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:55,680
my mind and the next thing you know

889
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:57,839
chat room twitter everything is all

890
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,119
about cereals people love their cereal

891
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:02,800
whatever it is

892
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:05,599
what's yours what's your go-to

893
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:06,400
uh

894
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,599
life cereal and raisin bran usually yeah

895
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,000
i can't do peanut butter anymore so yeah

896
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:14,319
that's right right hey let me tell you

897
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:15,200
something

898
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:19,040
raisin bran is is a good day

899
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,920
life cinnamon life you know what and i

900
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:23,760
like them both the same it's equal it

901
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:26,079
doesn't matter i can go down either

902
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,520
either path there

903
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,280
but life and cinnamon i'm right i'm

904
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,520
right there with you man good choices

905
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:33,040
very impressive

906
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,640
always more of a cereal in the evenings

907
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:36,319
person than the power breakfast in the

908
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,839
mornings get you going that's it

909
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,079
you got to balance life out you got to

910
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,720
balance life out it's part of the the

911
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:46,319
food pyramid

912
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:53,200
um isaac uh here's the thing

913
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:56,240
when you have uh done as many shows as

914
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:57,599
you have

915
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:01,359
and you are exposed to

916
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:05,119
uh different topics that uh it's very

917
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:06,319
easy

918
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,200
in in your world because that's a spider

919
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:11,920
web you're off on one little thing

920
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:14,960
whether it's you know a colony you know

921
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,680
super ships out heading that just that

922
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,119
discussion right there gives you a

923
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,280
hundred and fifty topics just on that

924
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,160
right it just you can go on forever

925
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,680
um

926
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:27,040
what up for episodes like we're gonna

927
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,119
run out of materials like well no i do a

928
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,280
show on futurism so probably not there's

929
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:33,839
always more of it ever ever ever and you

930
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:36,480
can do an entire entire career just talk

931
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,079
about one little piece of history or one

932
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,640
little piece of award for years we have

933
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:42,880
everything in all of time and the

934
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:46,079
universe to talk about so

935
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,960
you did a run this was uh a few years

936
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,880
ago and i i

937
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:52,319
this is how

938
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:56,240
i am about your stuff

939
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:59,440
you did a series

940
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,480
of

941
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:02,640
uh colonizing

942
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,680
uh

943
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:06,240
our planets and and the moon just here

944
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:09,280
in our solar system right yeah and

945
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,079
that

946
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:11,680
on the surface

947
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:13,680
that sounds like the most boring and

948
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:16,240
dumbest idea ever

949
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:16,960
it

950
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:19,920
does right man you had me

951
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:21,920
i'm just like and and

952
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,240
and so how would you how would you how

953
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:27,359
would you call is it possible you know

954
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:29,680
mercury oh yeah sure we can we can get

955
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:32,240
that done and this is how we you do it

956
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:33,680
and um

957
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:36,000
it's it's that's the point that i'm

958
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:37,359
making here

959
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,160
that

960
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:41,280
these whatever the subject is there is

961
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,920
such an in-depth discussion

962
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:45,520
to be had there

963
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:48,480
and and that series of colonizing our

964
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,839
solar system

965
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,079
was amazing

966
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:54,480
and it's just one little sliver of an

967
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:55,599
idea

968
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:58,000
of of the future it's it's absolutely

969
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,319
incredible so on to that end

970
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,920
enough of the accolades okay the

971
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,079
bromance is over let's get started

972
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,560
yeah yeah it was fun raisin bran

973
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:09,680
but but here's the thing

974
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:10,880
the

975
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,880
science fiction

976
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:17,440
the world of gaming

977
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,560
uh

978
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,480
science fiction in the in the past and

979
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:23,520
the deep past we went through romantic

980
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:27,760
periods of space exploration but once we

981
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:29,280
got to the moon

982
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:32,400
there's not much to fantasize

983
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,880
you know about you can expand on it

984
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,280
but the authors and the writers and the

985
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,079
creators they've got to move on to the

986
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:43,680
next fantasy right what is it and and i

987
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:45,680
think that there's two

988
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:49,599
subjects that are are the most fun

989
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,400
because we haven't tackled them yet

990
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,560
the multiverse

991
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:56,400
and time travel

992
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,520
and that's that and that the majority of

993
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:01,359
the movies and the books and the things

994
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:03,680
and the games and stuff that this is

995
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:07,040
what they deal with because we haven't

996
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:09,119
well officially that we know of we

997
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:11,119
haven't tackled it yet

998
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:14,800
and what is it about uh time travel

999
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:18,720
that is so freaking romantic it is such

1000
00:46:16,790 --> 00:45:19,440
a

1001
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,800
if

1002
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,720
do you do you find that your audience

1003
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,200
does that too as well you just you say

1004
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:23,520
the word time travel and right everybody

1005
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,800
pops

1006
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:26,400
to attention

1007
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,440
and

1008
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,359
you know so if you mention

1009
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,119
you know next week we're going to we're

1010
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:33,359
going to start a series on time travel

1011
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,240
right

1012
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:37,119
is is that the the the most response

1013
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,880
that you get from from your audience do

1014
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:40,960
you feel it too they usually like it

1015
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,000
tends to be one of some of the more

1016
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,079
popular episodes alien life in general

1017
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,720
colonizing planets but uh we usually do

1018
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,560
one episode on time travel one episode

1019
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,000
on the moon and one episode on mars

1020
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:52,319
every year just kind of out of habit and

1021
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:53,119
uh

1022
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:54,560
obviously i wouldn't bother redoing them

1023
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,319
if people were bored of them but uh they

1024
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:58,000
do i mean that that's a topic that we

1025
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,200
all love it doesn't even matter how

1026
00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:01,520
campy or unplausible the movie is we

1027
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:03,119
just love the ultimate histories aspect

1028
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,319
we you know

1029
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:06,079
give people a reason to watch it that

1030
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:08,240
doesn't make them have complete you know

1031
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,240
disbelief of it you know some suspension

1032
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,839
going on and they're going to enjoy the

1033
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,599
film because of the what if this and

1034
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:15,040
because of the strangeness of it you

1035
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:16,400
know it's like time travel makes sense

1036
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:18,000
as most of the movies or tv shows that

1037
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,440
use it it's usually

1038
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,599
very badly designed from the scientific

1039
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,119
perspective but at the same time it

1040
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,480
doesn't really matter because it's just

1041
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:26,319
asking that what if question you know

1042
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:28,240
watch something like a doctor or strange

1043
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,760
multiverse of madness and worry about

1044
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:32,160
whether or not it's breaking relativity

1045
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:33,119
right

1046
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,720
that show has been on the air

1047
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:41,280
since before television was invented

1048
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,599
right and so if if we look at it in

1049
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:45,119
those terms

1050
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:46,000
uh

1051
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:51,040
travel that that first aired when when

1052
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,800
lincoln was president

1053
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:54,319
i think it probably well it forced air

1054
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:56,319
in the year 2100 then the second episode

1055
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,839
was the year 1800

1056
00:48:01,910 --> 00:48:00,000
that's how it works well and there are

1057
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,920
no time travel jokes though any good

1058
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,920
it's it's weird because you think that

1059
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:06,079
time travel jokes would be there wasn't

1060
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,359
the most time to refine them and make

1061
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,599
them good but every time travel joke is

1062
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,240
awful just awful

1063
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,480
i'm trying my best man

1064
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,400
i'm trying my best so i was gonna tell a

1065
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:18,839
time travel joke but she didn't like

1066
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:22,880
it i got sent that three times today

1067
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:26,960
twice an email and once on social media

1068
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:29,839
and uh it never gets old but but it's

1069
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,040
it's really true right it and and

1070
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:35,040
i think that

1071
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:37,839
all of us recognize our own personal

1072
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:38,960
mistakes

1073
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,319
blatant stupid things that we had done

1074
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:44,960
in our past that we knew that we

1075
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:47,359
shouldn't have done whether it was

1076
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,599
uh skipping school maybe doing more of

1077
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:50,960
your homework

1078
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:54,720
uh the the girl or guy that got away

1079
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,599
um crashing your parents car whatever it

1080
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,400
is that you could go you know i should

1081
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:03,280
have ran a little more track whatever it

1082
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,319
is that there's that part of it i keep

1083
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,119
saying romantic but it is because yeah

1084
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:12,000
it it it gets that part of of your

1085
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,520
thoughts people mostly i'll think about

1086
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:15,200
yousef like could i go back in time and

1087
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:16,800
keep myself from getting you know that

1088
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,079
speeding ticket where i could just gone

1089
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:20,079
five miles an hour slower then anything

1090
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:21,599
very big usually can i go with those

1091
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:24,000
winning lottery numbers uh or they are

1092
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,760
thinking i want to go back in time and

1093
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:27,280
change that personal thing you know that

1094
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,960
that breakup that didn't need to have

1095
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,640
happened or could happen better that

1096
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:32,240
friend that i i end up having a fight

1097
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,760
with who doesn't talk to me more because

1098
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,079
i blah and that's the things people tend

1099
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,839
to fear you know i go back in time and

1100
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:39,520
say goodbye to your grandpa before he

1101
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,599
passed on that's what people think of

1102
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,040
and of course the downside is from the

1103
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,480
physical reality and instead of

1104
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,079
grandfather paradoxes where you go back

1105
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:48,000
in time and actually kill your grandpa

1106
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:50,400
and becoming your grandpa because for

1107
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,680
some reason they always have weird

1108
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:54,079
antics going on in time travel so

1109
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:55,440
now okay

1110
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:57,280
this is this is a good point to

1111
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,119
establish a few things because we're

1112
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:01,359
going to go into directions tonight uh

1113
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,160
different versions of time travel

1114
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:07,040
um so let's get into some basic uh

1115
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,720
classifications

1116
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:10,880
um and

1117
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:13,599
once you mention the grandfather paradox

1118
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,480
and every physicist does when when this

1119
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,720
comes up it's one of the first things uh

1120
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:20,559
but then once you jump into that then

1121
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,599
there's the possibility of of paradoxes

1122
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:26,640
uh maybe being impossible that they they

1123
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:28,000
couldn't happen

1124
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:30,800
um now let's talk about different

1125
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,839
versions of time travel when i mention

1126
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,160
it to you what's the first thing that

1127
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,000
that that comes to mind

1128
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,400
usually you know close time-like uh

1129
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,559
loops or you can go back in time to

1130
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,079
whenever you started your machine

1131
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:46,000
working so you can change time only

1132
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,680
roughly made the machine

1133
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,079
or splitting off into another universe

1134
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,200
where it's just i go back in time and i

1135
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:55,920
shoot hitler and now that different war

1136
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,079
period of time that timeline is separate

1137
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:59,520
but there's the one that i didn't do it

1138
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,520
that i came from i haven't re-looped

1139
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:02,720
time i've just gone into another

1140
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:03,760
timeline

1141
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:06,839
now both of those versions would

1142
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,520
require a machine or a device

1143
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,280
probably yeah i mean there could be a

1144
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,599
natural phenomena that would do that

1145
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,599
uh i mean i suppose if it was possible

1146
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,960
you could even rule out that so they

1147
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:20,640
might develop that as an evolutionary

1148
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:23,200
process

1149
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,520
that's another type of time travel so

1150
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,280
what i'm establishing here out of the

1151
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:29,200
gate is there's the version of time

1152
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,240
travel

1153
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:32,880
uh hg wells where you've got a machine

1154
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:35,119
or a device you're going backwards or

1155
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:36,800
forwards in time

1156
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:40,640
and there's that version of time travel

1157
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:43,680
uh another version of time travel would

1158
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:45,760
be what

1159
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,839
um you'd have the one where you could do

1160
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:49,520
some kind of mental process like we

1161
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:51,200
always saw in that quantum leap show

1162
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:54,400
with um oh my god i found his name

1163
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,680
scott bakula um if you think he was

1164
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:58,960
starting that and he somehow jumped back

1165
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:01,040
into people's previous bodies and lived

1166
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:02,960
inside them that one would be probably

1167
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,640
outside the normal normal zone of

1168
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,960
science but it's an option

1169
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,640
and a lot of them all kind of

1170
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:09,760
signs

1171
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:14,880
and then uh we have uh einstein's oh oh

1172
00:52:17,829 --> 00:52:16,839
uh

1173
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,839
yeah yes

1174
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:19,520
as we get into that

1175
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,200
um

1176
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,119
was all of that

1177
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:24,960
math interpreted

1178
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:27,680
later i mean i never mentioned time

1179
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,920
travel right he didn't he didn't use

1180
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,640
those words this was an interpretation

1181
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:34,319
of his math

1182
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,520
and and uh equations right

1183
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:38,880
well to be fair it was emily knew he

1184
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:40,640
thought his math that uh that was mostly

1185
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,400
uh he was having problems solving

1186
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,680
general relativity and it's general

1187
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,280
relativity not special relativity where

1188
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:47,119
the time travel options come up and

1189
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:48,480
that's where they called it emily north

1190
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,240
or she was the one who came up with the

1191
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:52,880
math for that but um not all of it

1192
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:56,000
though um but he did mention time travel

1193
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,040
i think here and there but he never

1194
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,680
really focus on it the usual usually

1195
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:01,440
even his hero is more of a just checking

1196
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:02,800
stuff theoretically and i don't think

1197
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,920
they are trying to look to cause a

1198
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:06,079
controversial storm and time travel was

1199
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,280
something people either at you with

1200
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,119
amusement and interest or with a

1201
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:11,040
complete rejection on the on the face of

1202
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:13,200
it kind of like with life extension so i

1203
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,400
can't say that he never talked about it

1204
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,160
in detail but i'm not i'm not thinking

1205
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,160
of any particular occasion he did so

1206
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:20,079
um in the case of the ones that he was

1207
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,680
looking at that's kind of your warm hall

1208
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:24,240
back in time case which is basically

1209
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:25,119
where

1210
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,160
you're bending time a very great deal or

1211
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,480
is uh what's his name uh ron mallett

1212
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,200
likes the twisting time um as opposed to

1213
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,599
benny it and those are options too and

1214
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,520
then beside that one it's it's usually i

1215
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:39,200
tend to object to it because it is what

1216
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,319
i call math base it's not physics based

1217
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,119
um you can have a negative cup of water

1218
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,200
in uh in math you don't actually have a

1219
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,720
negative cup of water in the physical

1220
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,880
universe and a lot of cases with exotic

1221
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,640
matter like negative matter or things

1222
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:54,800
like that it's not that they couldn't

1223
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,960
exist in theory it's that you know they

1224
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,240
see examples of those and they tend to

1225
00:54:01,829 --> 00:54:00,240
rely on things that happen in math but

1226
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,839
don't necessarily happen in the physical

1227
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,920
universe and we do tend to sometimes

1228
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,839
make the mistake of assuming that math

1229
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,319
describes the universe uh as opposed to

1230
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:10,800
simply being something that physics uses

1231
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:13,200
to help it process known data

1232
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:15,760
and then we have uh

1233
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:18,079
black holes

1234
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:19,280
and uh

1235
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:20,880
now

1236
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:22,000
this is

1237
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,920
for me i mean the way that we're going

1238
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:25,920
to talk about kip thorne a few times

1239
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,440
tonight for sure

1240
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,760
um the way that it's presented in

1241
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,440
interstellar

1242
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:33,839
is is pretty interesting and now

1243
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,640
obviously with a black hole i'll let you

1244
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,880
describe this you kind of have two

1245
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,040
options you can go up to the edge and

1246
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:42,960
take a peek and then put things in

1247
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:45,520
reverse before things get out of control

1248
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:47,680
right and your time traveling at that

1249
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:50,720
point or you can pass through it and and

1250
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,760
take your chances and both versions of

1251
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:56,160
it were in interstellar

1252
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:57,359
um

1253
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:58,799
what do you make of that do you think

1254
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:01,440
that that is a viable option

1255
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,160
uh for time travel in the future if we

1256
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:06,880
ever get a chance to uh cruise up to the

1257
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,040
edge of a black hole and that's if

1258
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,880
cern and the

1259
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:12,720
large hadron collider doesn't make a

1260
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,359
black hole for us uh before then

1261
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,280
well if if it does end up making a large

1262
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,720
black if it does make a black hole on

1263
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:21,119
this planet and actually causes damage

1264
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,799
the earth our theories on black holes

1265
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,559
are so wrong that we couldn't really

1266
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:25,839
ziki much else forgiving because they're

1267
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:27,200
supposed to explode when they get you

1268
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,799
know made of very tight sizes almost

1269
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:30,400
instantly which is potentially very

1270
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:32,480
handy for power and weaponry too but the

1271
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,240
really big black holes not the ones that

1272
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,319
get made by dying stars but the ones you

1273
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:38,319
find like the centers of galaxies those

1274
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,599
you can actually get close enough to the

1275
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:42,079
ocean ripped apart by the tidal forces

1276
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,599
it's a weird thing the smaller they are

1277
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,520
or the more dangerous they are to you as

1278
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:47,680
you know near them at those you can slow

1279
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,319
down your you know time so you can pass

1280
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:52,079
forward in time very quickly

1281
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,599
and of course there's the notion you can

1282
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:55,119
use that's potentially you know dip

1283
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:57,119
underneath the curve and somehow power

1284
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,720
out of it afterwards and you know go

1285
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:00,240
backward in time too

1286
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:03,200
um that's inside that zone of iffy math

1287
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:05,040
zone but the other idea is usually that

1288
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,640
you're going to drop down to the center

1289
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:08,960
of the black hole and you have some uh

1290
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,640
exotic matter usually negative matter

1291
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,119
that's pushing back to keeper of doorway

1292
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:14,960
openings at war and you could follow

1293
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:16,400
through that and emoji though in a

1294
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,000
different location in the universe or

1295
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,480
different time the universe or both

1296
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,160
and if that works that's your that's

1297
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:23,599
your classic wormhole though there are

1298
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,880
like five or six different types of

1299
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:27,119
wormholes too um and those don't

1300
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:28,799
necessarily come back into our universe

1301
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:29,920
either which is another one you might

1302
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,359
already have gone into a parallel

1303
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:33,760
universe um then they might be one way

1304
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:36,319
they might be two-way there are so many

1305
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:39,680
if's on that math but uh yeah someone

1306
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,960
like that yeah

1307
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,640
were you uh

1308
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:44,400
kip thorne's book the science of

1309
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,240
interstellar um is absolutely required

1310
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,799
reading uh for anybody in this community

1311
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,319
and certainly if you're interested in

1312
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,240
the subject and then you can go back and

1313
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:56,799
watch interstellar again and understand

1314
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:59,119
the importance of of kip thorne who

1315
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,960
developed the film he wasn't brought in

1316
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,760
as

1317
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,599
this is a film project that he had

1318
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,359
shopped and worked on for years and

1319
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,200
years and he talks about that in the

1320
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:10,000
book um so anyway

1321
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,000
this just wasn't a christopher nolan

1322
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,000
film out of the gate this was something

1323
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:16,079
that kip thorne had developed with his

1324
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,190
matthew mcconaughey

1325
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,520
passes through the black hole and is not

1326
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:28,079
spaghettified

1327
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,760
and kip thorne describes in the book how

1328
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:33,440
this is possible

1329
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,559
um it goes against the grain of

1330
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:38,319
everything else that we understand about

1331
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,200
black holes up up to this point uh were

1332
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:43,119
you okay with that that

1333
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:45,599
you know he he he didn't have a helmet

1334
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:50,150
he didn't have anything and the ship

1335
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,359
dissolves

1336
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:53,280
right there's no problem passing into

1337
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:56,720
one if if a few different things occur

1338
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,559
one you've got one that's just so big

1339
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,480
again like the galactic center ones that

1340
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:01,920
you're not actually being torn apart by

1341
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:04,079
title forces themselves and again they

1342
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,920
don't you know million mass black holes

1343
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:07,680
and these do exist right at least we

1344
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,079
assume so the evidence is very solid we

1345
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:12,240
have another one

1346
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:13,920
probably several larger ones throughout

1347
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:15,920
the galaxy two and the tens of thousands

1348
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:19,040
of solar masses range and um

1349
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,559
because our galaxy is such a cannibal

1350
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:22,559
it's like 50 different galaxies in here

1351
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:24,160
but the other option of course would be

1352
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,839
that you know as we say you you wrap

1353
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:27,920
yourself or you wrap the the wormhole

1354
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,079
pathway in an exotic matter like

1355
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:31,839
negative matter if you've got it and

1356
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:33,520
then there is one other one that you can

1357
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:35,119
use in a case like that that that's

1358
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,559
always worth mind

1359
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,079
we think that it might be possible to do

1360
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:40,319
a wormhole that was very tiny like just

1361
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,440
enough to be able to get a signal

1362
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:43,680
through as at all well if you have

1363
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,440
sufficient technology you can transmit

1364
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:47,680
all the data that a person's made up out

1365
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:49,520
of and reassemble them on the other side

1366
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,200
well if information is preserved and it

1367
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:52,960
falls through a black hole you can

1368
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:54,640
conceivably

1369
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:56,400
pull that information out either on the

1370
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,599
other end of the warm horn no matter how

1371
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,040
much the person was ripped to pieces by

1372
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:01,599
it or potentially in some versions it

1373
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,400
could be removing over time uh as the

1374
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:06,720
black hole evaporates and that's there's

1375
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:08,400
again a lot of different ways that the

1376
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,920
data might happen on those until we

1377
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:11,680
actually get up and examine a black hole

1378
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:13,200
or make one in the lab which will

1379
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:15,200
actually probably happen sooner i guess

1380
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:16,400
uh we're not really gonna be able to

1381
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,799
confirm these yet but that would be the

1382
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:20,480
options available and yeah he goes

1383
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,240
through i can't which ones he discusses

1384
00:59:25,349 --> 00:59:24,079
besides the main one but i i want i

1385
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:25,359
think the one for no seller was just a

1386
00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:27,920
very large black hole yeah

1387
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:29,880
i forget the name of it

1388
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:32,240
giganticon or yeah that was probably it

1389
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,839
was something that meant big but

1390
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:37,280
let me ask you this before the break

1391
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,400
we've got

1392
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:40,319
about 45 seconds

1393
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:44,079
um with what you know now and you're at

1394
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,240
you're in sagittarius eight right you're

1395
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,839
there you're at uh

1396
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:50,480
uh you're looking down the center of our

1397
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:51,680
black hole

1398
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:54,240
uh do you do you cruise through it do

1399
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:55,839
you feel do you feel like you would

1400
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,839
survive are you okay with that

1401
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:59,440
i don't think i'd survive i think that

1402
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,040
you you'd fall through that black hole

1403
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:03,839
and eventually end up inside a boiling

1404
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,000
hot mass at the center uh after you're

1405
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:08,640
eventually killed on the far down um but

1406
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:10,160
i tend to think of black holes of that

1407
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,880
size as more useful for building giant

1408
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,119
shells around as opposed to dumping

1409
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:17,040
stuff down i like them for power plants

1410
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:19,599
and and planets giant planets

1411
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:21,839
better than time traveling oh my god

1412
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:24,960
uh uh okay 15 seconds when you look at a

1413
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:27,200
black hole from the side we know what we

1414
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,760
see from the front right it's black it's

1415
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:31,280
void of light

1416
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,359
from the side is it just completely flat

1417
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,760
no no no three-dimensional that's that's

1418
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:39,520
the tricky part about some individuals

1419
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,160
it's a black ball it's a black sphere

1420
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:44,319
yeah out to the event horizon and inside

1421
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:45,920
it's a glowing hot mass that you can't

1422
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,200
see and then around it though you get

1423
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:49,200
the accretion disk and it's just kind of

1424
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:50,400
the nature of these things they almost

1425
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,760
always end up dislike for the same

1426
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:53,760
reason planetary solar systems or

1427
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:56,720
galaxies tend to discount a lot that's a

1428
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,920
something you don't see with dark matter

1429
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:59,760
for instance why don't see anything with

1430
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:01,680
dark matter but you know why that's more

1431
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:04,079
field as they're chewing up and eating

1432
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:06,319
and sucking in everything they're just

1433
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:08,960
growing in mass yeah yeah they grow in

1434
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:11,440
mass and they give off tons of radiation

1435
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:13,280
just outside the event horizon as things

1436
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:16,000
fall in and basically go nuclear levels

1437
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:17,359
of energy before they hit the event

1438
01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:20,079
horizon hawking radiation right no

1439
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:21,680
that's that's that's slightly different

1440
01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:22,720
we'll have to get the one after the

1441
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:25,520
break but and why why are you so smart

1442
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:28,720
man am i why is that

1443
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:30,079
not as smart as either the gentleman we

1444
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,440
were discussing that

1445
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:33,680
thought is a brilliant man let's take

1446
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:36,079
our break right here you know i met him

1447
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:38,000
did i ever tell you my stephen uh

1448
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,680
hawking story nope

1449
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:41,280
all right i'll share that with you after

1450
01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:43,520
the break it's it's not as exciting as

1451
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:45,440
you would think but it was pretty cool i

1452
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:46,799
talked to him

1453
01:01:50,829 --> 01:01:47,920
i did

1454
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:50,839
he asked me if i was a

1455
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:55,119
cop typed it on his screen are you a cop

1456
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:57,200
i'm not making that up this is pizza

1457
01:02:01,029 --> 01:01:59,039
black alright meow city church tonight

1458
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:01,039
isaac arthur is with us

1459
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,760
we are talking time travel

1460
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stay with us we'll be right back after

1461
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this short break this is fade to black

1462
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this is nicole church daughter of you

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know who and you're listening to fade to

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black on jimmychurchradio.com

1465
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you're listening to jimmy church and

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fade to black

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hello fader knots jimmy church here

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pollutants in your home and destroys

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them it's called a thunderstorm because

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1564
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:23,119
is not

1565
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your father's radio show

1566
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:29,920
on the game changer radio network

1567
01:07:38,890 --> 01:07:32,000
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

1568
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:58,950
[Music]

1569
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,349
oh welcome back fade to black i'm your

1570
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:02,880
host jimmy church

1571
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,000
tonight isaac arthur is with us

1572
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,640
and i always you know i don't want to be

1573
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:10,400
so cavalier but

1574
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,119
but i always feel a little smarter and a

1575
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:15,359
little bit better

1576
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:18,000
as a human being after isaac is on the

1577
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:19,199
show with us and we're doing that

1578
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:20,960
tonight with time travel

1579
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:24,239
and uh now

1580
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:27,440
let's get into the facts of the case

1581
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:28,719
and then uh

1582
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:30,719
we'll we'll branch off

1583
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:33,440
but but isaac time travel is

1584
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,359
absolutely 100 traveling to the future

1585
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,759
is not only possible but we could do it

1586
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:40,880
today

1587
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:44,080
let me ask you this question

1588
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,440
why

1589
01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:48,000
don't we like right now

1590
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:49,839
starting tomorrow

1591
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:53,040
why don't we build a

1592
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:56,400
dragster funny car of a spaceship right

1593
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,000
now in in in low earth orbit

1594
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:01,920
nothing but engine

1595
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:04,560
throw a couple of astronauts on it

1596
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:07,600
and blast that thing out to pluto

1597
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:09,120
and back

1598
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:10,159
and

1599
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:13,520
why don't

1600
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:15,839
we could do that tomorrow we literally

1601
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:19,440
could do that tomorrow we um voyager how

1602
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:20,799
many years did it take to go

1603
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:24,319
interstellar right and and that was just

1604
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:26,000
uh uh

1605
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:27,920
giving it a little gas and pointing it

1606
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:30,000
in a direction i think what was it 17

1607
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:32,239
000 miles per hour or whatever it was

1608
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:35,839
um but but build uh

1609
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:38,719
uh a ship you know a a couple of seats

1610
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:41,120
with two engines on the back that's it

1611
01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:42,560
right

1612
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:44,159
and just go

1613
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:45,679
and and

1614
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,040
and as as fast as we can

1615
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,120
and and then measure the clocks and do

1616
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:52,480
an experiment

1617
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:54,480
and we haven't done that with uh even

1618
01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:56,239
with aircraft plates we just uh we put

1619
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:57,920
an atomic clock on it flowing around the

1620
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:59,520
ward and seen if it matched up their

1621
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:01,679
estimates we did but those were atomic

1622
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:03,679
clocks being off by you know not even a

1623
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:06,560
nanosecond yeah a million

1624
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,480
yeah yeah yeah yeah but you know what

1625
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,400
i'm why don't we do that that sounds

1626
01:10:14,470 --> 01:10:12,480
like a pretty fun experiment

1627
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:14,480
no arm no foul just

1628
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:16,960
you know five years in space you know go

1629
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:18,400
out two and a half years in one

1630
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:20,880
direction two and a half years back

1631
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:22,159
point out that's what they the other

1632
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,679
thinking of plant the apes the original

1633
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,440
film was

1634
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:26,880
should get out of control and too fast

1635
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:29,440
and it ended up in the future but um i

1636
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:31,760
think the problem is until you get up to

1637
01:10:35,590 --> 01:10:33,760
a decent fraction of light speed and

1638
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:35,600
voyager you know i can't remember six

1639
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:37,679
speed but 70 000 miles per hour that's

1640
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:40,320
good enough the speed of light is

1641
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:42,400
10 times that

1642
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:44,800
per second as opposed to per hour so you

1643
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:47,520
know the speed of light is 186 000 miles

1644
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,719
per second

1645
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,480
and we don't get anywhere close to that

1646
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,560
and that thing kind of scales up

1647
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:54,640
with not quite the square it's one minus

1648
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,120
the square root oh square root of 1

1649
01:11:01,910 --> 01:10:59,040
minus the square of the speed relative

1650
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:01,920
to the light but uh the lens factor and

1651
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:03,520
that thing goes slowly so even when

1652
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:04,640
you're up to

1653
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:06,000
i think it's eighty-six percent of the

1654
01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:07,280
speed of light that's when you finally

1655
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:08,640
hit the point the time would be moving

1656
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:10,080
at half speed

1657
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:11,920
and to do that what you need is either

1658
01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:14,159
antimatter and large quantities

1659
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,640
a black or hawking radiation based ship

1660
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:18,400
drive which is different than the normal

1661
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:21,600
type of radiation of a black hole uh or

1662
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:23,360
uh if you don't have antimatter or black

1663
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,480
holes you can use gigantic lasers uh the

1664
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:28,719
kind that you would for a man ship like

1665
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,440
that you'd probably need ones that could

1666
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:33,600
cut grooves inside planets in terms of

1667
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:35,440
how much energy they put out which works

1668
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,760
for me i love gigantic lasers i think

1669
01:11:40,870 --> 01:11:39,520
they're all future for space travel but

1670
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:40,880
uh you might have a little bit of

1671
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:42,239
problem finding that one at the moment

1672
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:43,600
it might cause some international

1673
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:44,719
tensions

1674
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:48,000
yeah but okay okay okay don't ruin this

1675
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,520
for me isaac

1676
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:51,600
okay let's try this again was that a

1677
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:54,080
gallon size coffee cup hold that up

1678
01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:56,080
again

1679
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:00,239
holy smokes you don't play around okay

1680
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,640
and it's coffee too i know it is right

1681
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:04,640
yeah

1682
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:09,440
if but let's say if uh it's just a nice

1683
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:12,640
not that fast 250 000 miles per hour

1684
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:15,679
right omumu speed

1685
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:17,199
and and

1686
01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:18,560
and out

1687
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,159
to pluto

1688
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:22,400
and turn around and come back

1689
01:12:27,189 --> 01:12:25,520
uh and and at 250 000 miles per hour

1690
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:27,199
you're not talking about that much time

1691
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:29,040
to get out to the edge

1692
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:30,960
and and turn around and come back but

1693
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:33,840
but to come back and and

1694
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:37,679
your watch your calendar on on the ship

1695
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:40,880
you've been gone for uh for five years

1696
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:42,400
but you come back

1697
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:44,640
uh six months in the future

1698
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,719
uh wouldn't that be a pretty interesting

1699
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:48,560
experiment that we could actually do

1700
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,960
right now i i honestly think that's

1701
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:52,560
something that we should do it's right

1702
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:55,120
within our grasp if if we i mean pete

1703
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:57,199
warden from brakes to straw shot that's

1704
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,640
the one is why i use the big laser beam

1705
01:13:02,470 --> 01:12:59,920
to send uh

1706
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,480
little chip size uh you know space

1707
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,560
probes to other solar systems those only

1708
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:07,199
go to about 30 of light speed tops and

1709
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:09,280
uh they have quite a pretty big array of

1710
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:10,880
lasers to get that little giant ship

1711
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,719
that weighs like one gram up to speed i

1712
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,560
can't what the actual weight is it might

1713
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,560
be more than that but it's it's

1714
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:18,640
problematic but even 250 000 miles now

1715
01:13:21,510 --> 01:13:19,760
and we might be able to build a shape

1716
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,520
ship we could build a ship probably that

1717
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:23,360
could go that fast if we want to throw

1718
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:25,760
money at it problem is that's still

1719
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:27,360
not even a thousandth of the speed of

1720
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:28,239
light

1721
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:30,000
and uh because again it comes out much

1722
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:32,080
time you know that much like a second

1723
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:33,920
and a half is how fast i would usually

1724
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:36,480
cover that distance per hour instead and

1725
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,159
that means it's going to take

1726
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:39,840
what a couple years to get out to pluto

1727
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:42,159
i think uh at that point still although

1728
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:43,520
those are i'm running the numbers in my

1729
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:46,159
head and i ain't that good at math um

1730
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:47,600
which time dilation at something like

1731
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:48,719
that is still going to be like one

1732
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:51,360
millionth of a second slower per second

1733
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:53,120
you know like go around a million years

1734
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,960
and lose a few minutes or something like

1735
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:56,480
that or a few years

1736
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,920
uh it's not gonna be that much of a

1737
01:14:02,630 --> 01:13:59,360
change over you really have to get to

1738
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:02,640
the extreme end of relativistic speed

1739
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,280
special relativity or general relativity

1740
01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:07,600
and kind of a context on this we can

1741
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:09,440
calculate your speed in terms of how

1742
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,440
fast you're you're slowing time down by

1743
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:13,360
your speed away from something when

1744
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:14,880
you're talking the gravity angle you can

1745
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,719
like black horse for instance if you

1746
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,560
know the escape velocity of that object

1747
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,400
from wherever you are relative to it

1748
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:23,040
usually that's going to be very loosely

1749
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:24,640
you know correlating to the time

1750
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,320
dilation as well so

1751
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:28,560
if you know something would be 86

1752
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:30,000
percent of the speed of light to get you

1753
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:31,440
out of things gravity well which would

1754
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:33,280
be very close to a black hole or maybe

1755
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,000
lightning or neutron star um that would

1756
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:38,320
be half speed you know your time will be

1757
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:40,480
going about that speed for you so only

1758
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,719
with the really huge black holes and you

1759
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:44,400
know right near them are you ever going

1760
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:45,679
to be able to actually get away with

1761
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:46,560
going

1762
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:49,120
significantly slower if you want to go

1763
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,760
fast forward in time your best route is

1764
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:53,360
probably just to have yourself frozen

1765
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:54,719
and hope on the other end of that they

1766
01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:57,360
have the technology to resurrect you and

1767
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:59,360
time travel and send you back home

1768
01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:01,040
but i think there's got to be at least a

1769
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:02,159
few people who've already tried that

1770
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,280
trick and they never seem to show up

1771
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:04,800
here also probably not that particular

1772
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,360
type of time driver being allowed

1773
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:09,199
do you okay

1774
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:11,600
just just put on your fun hat for a

1775
01:15:16,709 --> 01:15:14,400
second and i know that you have one

1776
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:16,719
is it possible when we talk about

1777
01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:19,360
alternate timelines and everything else

1778
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:21,199
do you think it might be possible that

1779
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:23,600
some of these ghosts and these

1780
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,640
interdimensional things uh that we see

1781
01:15:32,229 --> 01:15:28,480
uh from time to time

1782
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:32,239
uh maybe time travelers uh observing us

1783
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,480
yeah i mean that is it's it's easy to

1784
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:36,080
say no on something like that i'm gonna

1785
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,920
guess the answer probably is no but yeah

1786
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:39,520
those are definitely options you know a

1787
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:40,800
lot of people have seen a lot of strange

1788
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:43,280
things and again

1789
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:45,760
i i don't like to ever as a scientist

1790
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:47,360
say oh yes that's what's happening right

1791
01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:48,480
the other hand i i do not like the

1792
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:49,840
tendency or just be like oh no that

1793
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:51,440
definitely isn't no no definitely not

1794
01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:53,920
that phenomena um anybody can just say

1795
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:56,159
no about stuff like that we don't know

1796
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,840
what these phenomena are probably a lot

1797
01:16:01,910 --> 01:15:59,360
of them are not what people are assuming

1798
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:01,920
they are and a lot of them probably are

1799
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:03,760
totally mundane but a lot of them maybe

1800
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:05,280
aren't

1801
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,880
the um there's a conversation let's stay

1802
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:10,480
right here

1803
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:13,600
um that seems to be bubbling to the

1804
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:15,520
surface in

1805
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:17,679
military circles

1806
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,719
um

1807
01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:20,640
uh that

1808
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:23,120
these objects not all of them but some

1809
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,320
of them

1810
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:26,800
uh these uaps

1811
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:28,159
may be us

1812
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:30,960
right maybe us from the future yeah and

1813
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:33,440
that's that's a crazy conversation and

1814
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:36,000
if the department of defense is suddenly

1815
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:38,480
mentioning this as a possibility

1816
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,480
do they know something that we don't i

1817
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:42,080
mean could that

1818
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:42,880
be

1819
01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:45,760
this part of the ufo phenomena

1820
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,199
i never trust the department of defense

1821
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:48,719
to know anything very long on its own

1822
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:52,800
without leaking out but uh i it's

1823
01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:54,239
i have a lot of friends who work with

1824
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:55,600
them and i feel like i'd probably know

1825
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:56,719
if something like that specifically were

1826
01:17:01,669 --> 01:16:58,960
going on but at the same time yet i

1827
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:01,679
can't remember what aeonflux the old tv

1828
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,080
show on mtv aeon flux they're like last

1829
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:06,480
episode they have some aliens that have

1830
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,719
arrived and they find out later on in a

1831
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:10,880
typically trippy episode that it wasn't

1832
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:12,960
really aliens it was time travelers from

1833
01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:15,280
the future that they thought were aliens

1834
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:16,560
there's another one for that period we

1835
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:18,320
call it light years or in the us was

1836
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,920
called ganda hall originally it's a film

1837
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:21,440
where again they get the invasion

1838
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:23,280
backward in time for themselves it's

1839
01:17:28,149 --> 01:17:26,000
aliens but that's what it is originally

1840
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:28,159
and uh one of my upcoming episodes i do

1841
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:29,520
a time travel episode every year and

1842
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:31,120
sometimes this month we got the time

1843
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:32,400
wars and alternate timelines won't

1844
01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:35,280
coming out and i say if in the future

1845
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:37,280
i have a time machine what do i do do i

1846
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:38,719
colonize you know i can travel to a

1847
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,159
different multiverse like travel back in

1848
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:42,480
time or i could travel to all the stars

1849
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:43,760
you're never going to find an easy or

1850
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,679
better place to colonize than a copy of

1851
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,280
your planet where humans just never

1852
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:49,520
arrived right which should be tons and

1853
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:51,520
tons of them so why aren't you invading

1854
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,920
backwards in time to some copy of your

1855
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:56,000
plant that doesn't have life or just for

1856
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:57,440
actually showed up say three million

1857
01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:58,719
years ago before there were humans

1858
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:01,600
around apparently um you know that would

1859
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:03,600
be the option you'd expect

1860
01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:05,360
and i won't spoil it because of a good

1861
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:08,239
indie on that one but it tends to show

1862
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:10,800
why even if you could pull this off

1863
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:13,840
uh it would not work out very well

1864
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:16,159
why is that that's a do-over right

1865
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:18,400
that's a bona fide do-over

1866
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:21,040
all right so i i might as well

1867
01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:22,719
tease people with it but let's say that

1868
01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:25,120
i go ahead and i go back in time and

1869
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:26,719
there's a million different timelines in

1870
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:28,640
the next second in which i either did or

1871
01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:30,159
didn't do that if i had the machine

1872
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:31,760
right so let's say that there's

1873
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,520
oh a few million where i just waited one

1874
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:34,960
more second before i invaded back in

1875
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:37,040
time right different versions of reality

1876
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:38,400
and we all go back to the original time

1877
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,560
you were planning to arrive at say 1

1878
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:42,239
million years ago to invade the place

1879
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,080
and take it over and we all arrive at

1880
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:46,320
the same moment and each those timelines

1881
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:47,840
would also have had us say bringing an

1882
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,000
army back in time or fleets and these

1883
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,840
exponentially increased so next moment

1884
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:53,040
there's another billion of these

1885
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:55,040
timelines and these are very tiny

1886
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:56,480
numbers compared to reality but too

1887
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,640
because there are trillions of timelines

1888
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,719
just spun out for you even now second

1889
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:02,480
correct so what ends up happening is you

1890
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:04,400
would have if you can actually add

1891
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:05,840
matter in the past you just walk through

1892
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:08,320
yourself right and making that area more

1893
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:10,400
massive there's now more mass

1894
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:11,520
on the surface of that planet you're

1895
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:15,040
invading well if 10 quadrillion of you

1896
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:17,440
arrive with battle fleets and soldiers

1897
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:19,840
to take over the past and add mass that

1898
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:23,199
planet it turns into a black hole

1899
01:19:26,149 --> 01:19:24,719
so it might be one of those examples and

1900
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:26,159
this happens a lot with time travel when

1901
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:27,679
you follow it forward you know through

1902
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:30,239
all the bits you find some unavoidable

1903
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:31,840
paradox or problem you can't get around

1904
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,480
to not exclusively but that one is even

1905
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,960
if time travel walks you invade the past

1906
01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:38,880
to seize the best time for it and you

1907
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:40,480
have so many people flooding back from

1908
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:42,880
altered timelines in that place that you

1909
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:45,199
collapse it as a black hole

1910
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,000
okay i love this subject and let me tell

1911
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:50,880
you why this is where to me

1912
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:53,679
i'm just gonna piss off half of my

1913
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:55,120
audience right now

1914
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:56,719
this is where

1915
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:01,120
uh star trek has got it completely wrong

1916
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,520
and let me let me explain

1917
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:05,679
because it doesn't make any sense if

1918
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:08,880
you're if you're wart driving at the

1919
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:11,520
speed of light all over the universe

1920
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,400
you have no idea what point in time

1921
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:17,280
you've left or have arrived in

1922
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:20,560
and everybody else on those ships

1923
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:22,800
right in the star fleet is doing the

1924
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:25,040
exact same thing

1925
01:20:28,470 --> 01:20:25,840
so

1926
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:28,480
you go and you split earth and you warp

1927
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:29,920
drive out to

1928
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,679
you know andromeda

1929
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:33,120
and back

1930
01:20:36,629 --> 01:20:35,360
you're you're not arriving back when you

1931
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:36,639
left

1932
01:20:41,189 --> 01:20:39,280
you're you're a half a million years off

1933
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:41,199
right

1934
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:43,600
and and it's this and if you're

1935
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:44,880
here's the thing

1936
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:47,040
you're doing it like this

1937
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:50,880
all over a galaxy all the time how do

1938
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:53,679
you even know where you are at

1939
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:56,080
and it's something that's not addressed

1940
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:58,000
where are you at at a point in time

1941
01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,480
after doing that for a month i do not

1942
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:02,400
know how it is that star trek always had

1943
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,239
their reputations the more scientific of

1944
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:06,159
the of the sci-fi genre although they

1945
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,280
are probably a little bit better about

1946
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:09,120
the star wars or doctor who but a lot of

1947
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:11,520
the science talk is just randomly made

1948
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,960
up nonsense i love the show but i'll go

1949
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,719
back and watch something like tng like i

1950
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,159
have no idea what that you just made

1951
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:18,159
that up that makes the quantum something

1952
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,320
right it makes no sense but

1953
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,760
one thing that we have to keep in mind

1954
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:23,360
with these kind of time travel events is

1955
01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:25,360
exactly is that if you're traveling

1956
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:26,719
faster than light you almost inevitably

1957
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,880
time travel the the simple ones you say

1958
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:30,560
you got the classic wormhole gates i

1959
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:32,320
make two gates right next to each other

1960
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:34,000
step through one i merge through the

1961
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:35,040
other

1962
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,960
now i take one of those into the

1963
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:39,120
wormhole and i drag it up to very fast

1964
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:41,440
speeds again time is going slower as i

1965
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:44,080
move this thing so it's only experienced

1966
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:46,000
say one year when i get to my

1967
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:48,080
destination whereas back home two years

1968
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:49,840
have passed that's correct through that

1969
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:51,840
woman i emerged

1970
01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:53,840
one year in the future

1971
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:56,239
whereas i left two years ago and if i

1972
01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:57,840
bring that one horse mouth back to where

1973
01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:00,880
i started off from i drink it there

1974
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,760
right

1975
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,120
and that because that's the specifically

1976
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,199
is the close timelike core that we talk

1977
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:07,199
about with einstein and the uh twin

1978
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,280
paradoxes right now i can step in that

1979
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:11,840
thing and i step back out two years ago

1980
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:14,000
but i can only do that as long as the

1981
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:16,080
mouth of the womb hold actually existed

1982
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,080
this is allowed under general relativity

1983
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:20,159
though as hawking said i think what's it

1984
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:21,440
called um

1985
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:23,600
the chronology project chronology

1986
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:26,159
protection conjecture um

1987
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,520
it was basically idea that even if

1988
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:29,040
something allows time travel and general

1989
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:30,880
relativity but if that violates the

1990
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:32,480
other areas of physics which we know

1991
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:34,239
better anyway doesn't necessarily mean

1992
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:36,960
it happens and this is exactly a problem

1993
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:38,239
with the wormholes or the closed

1994
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:41,679
time-like loops is that you can do this

1995
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:43,520
on paper you move that one whole mouth

1996
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:46,239
and back again but it shouldn't actually

1997
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:47,120
work

1998
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:48,560
because then you have paradoxes really

1999
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:50,239
people already doing this and if that's

2000
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:51,520
the case then there must be something

2001
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:53,280
that makes that impossible

2002
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,719
well

2003
01:22:58,229 --> 01:22:56,880
i forget the physicist about 10 years

2004
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:58,239
ago that

2005
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:02,239
that laid out those numbers uh to move

2006
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,159
the exit and the entrance of the

2007
01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:06,719
wormhole next to each other uh depending

2008
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:08,000
on the size of the wormhole and the

2009
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,400
length of it but you pass in you go into

2010
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:12,639
the entrance you come out the other side

2011
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:14,960
and you are younger all of the

2012
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:16,960
synchronized watches and clocks you have

2013
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:18,320
your witnesses

2014
01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:20,880
the watch on your hand doesn't change

2015
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,199
you pass through the wormhole everything

2016
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,520
is still synchronized but you come out

2017
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:26,880
younger

2018
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:30,639
here's the thing

2019
01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:32,800
do you come out of

2020
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:34,480
the exit

2021
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:36,320
younger which is fine and the math

2022
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:37,679
supports this

2023
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:40,560
um which is the astonishing thing but do

2024
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,800
you come out with the memory

2025
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:44,400
and the knowledge

2026
01:23:47,669 --> 01:23:46,239
that you went in with

2027
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:47,679
no that's that

2028
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:50,000
oh so

2029
01:23:53,669 --> 01:23:52,080
no everything i mean your memory to the

2030
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:53,679
best on knowledge and again there's a

2031
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:55,120
lot we don't know about the human mind

2032
01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:56,880
so maybe your memory is stored other

2033
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,719
than just on neurons but if i just gone

2034
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,880
back and move time backward for every

2035
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:02,320
cell in your body every atom in your

2036
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:04,000
body that includes your memory it

2037
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:05,840
includes all the photons that hit your

2038
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:07,840
neurons and so forth

2039
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:10,000
so if you are de-aging somebody they

2040
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:11,280
should be losing their memories unless

2041
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:13,360
you're de-aging them by cellular or pale

2042
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:15,120
which is not what time travel should do

2043
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:16,960
you killed it for me again he's checking

2044
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:19,280
out the romantic side of this because

2045
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:21,440
isn't that what you would want to do

2046
01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:24,239
right repeat that a couple of times

2047
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:26,639
you're acquiring knowledge right and you

2048
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,560
come back out the younger version now

2049
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:30,960
you're virtually immortal

2050
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:34,400
again the clocks the what not

2051
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:37,120
nothing is changing but you're becoming

2052
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:39,760
younger well it's only fun if you get to

2053
01:24:41,830 --> 01:24:40,960
remember

2054
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:41,840
uh

2055
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:44,800
and retain your knowledge

2056
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:47,760
um the very last episode of stargate sg1

2057
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:49,280
they uh they're trying to figure out a

2058
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:50,400
way why one of the characters isn't

2059
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:52,800
supposed to age very uh quickly is uh

2060
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:54,239
suddenly getting gray hair after 10

2061
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:56,239
years on the show uh they all have a

2062
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:57,760
they experienced 50 years in time and

2063
01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:59,520
then they have to d

2064
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:00,800
you know go back in time to fix the

2065
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,000
problem finally if they figure out how

2066
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:04,719
the solution is and uh great episode too

2067
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:06,880
it's one of the best closest sci-fi one

2068
01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:08,320
of them has to stay behind and remember

2069
01:25:12,310 --> 01:25:10,800
the whole thing and as to de-age and uh

2070
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:12,320
it's him so he ends up with a gray hair

2071
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:14,239
at the end of it that was teok and uh

2072
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:16,080
for sg-1 fans i love that show as much

2073
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:17,920
yeah that was that was a you're right

2074
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:19,600
that was a great ender

2075
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:20,880
okay

2076
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,880
sg universe

2077
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:24,239
was the best

2078
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:26,800
it was good but it because it died two

2079
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:28,000
seasons in

2080
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:30,800
i you know i loved the entire franchise

2081
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:32,320
uh but

2082
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:34,400
i i really wish we got in another season

2083
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:35,920
or two

2084
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:37,840
and see this is the thing this is what's

2085
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:41,040
messed up about uh stargate universe

2086
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:44,000
um it was the perfect cliffhanger

2087
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:46,000
it was the way to end the second season

2088
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:47,920
for season three

2089
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:50,560
and we didn't get it right that was

2090
01:25:54,709 --> 01:25:52,239
meant

2091
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:54,719
and it they that was the best uh that

2092
01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:57,040
was the best uh computer generated

2093
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:59,280
graphics that was uh some of the best

2094
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:00,719
script writing

2095
01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:03,040
um it was it does it didn't have the

2096
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:05,679
cheesy tv factor in its production i

2097
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,639
mean it was really it felt high budget

2098
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:10,080
yeah yeah i think

2099
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,760
it's a great interface season two you

2100
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:12,880
know you might be getting cancelled

2101
01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:15,760
because the order blake seven rule is uh

2102
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:17,280
you can always bring it back uh

2103
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:19,199
afterwards they all died in stasis so

2104
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:20,960
whoever doesn't want to come back either

2105
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:22,719
a uh well we saw this show back up 10

2106
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:25,040
years later oh the live support tubes

2107
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:26,400
which is already established in this you

2108
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:27,840
know talking universe

2109
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:29,520
did parsley malfunction half of them

2110
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:30,880
died the ones that will come back and

2111
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:32,960
the rest of you have aged so you've also

2112
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:34,320
put on weight for some reason but that's

2113
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:35,280
what it is

2114
01:26:39,590 --> 01:26:36,480
right right

2115
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:39,600
and and and this was the crazy thing i

2116
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:41,600
mean the season three would have written

2117
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:43,040
itself

2118
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:47,280
the whole point of sg universe was they

2119
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:49,440
were chasing down a signal at the

2120
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:51,360
beginning of everything right and that

2121
01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:53,199
was the journey they're trying to get to

2122
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:55,360
the signal to see who is sending it

2123
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:56,159
right

2124
01:27:01,350 --> 01:26:59,280
it's it's easy it writes itself let's go

2125
01:27:04,470 --> 01:27:01,360
get season three done

2126
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,480
and and resolve it but i wanted to know

2127
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:06,480
what what that signal was it was and

2128
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:08,480
that was great and it's the other part

2129
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,320
and we've got to move on

2130
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:13,360
this ship if you remember

2131
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:16,000
on the back part of the ship was a mayan

2132
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:18,719
pyramid

2133
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:21,440
you don't remember that i'm kind of yeah

2134
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:23,440
there was wasn't there yeah yeah it was

2135
01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:27,120
a thing it was my impairment now how

2136
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:31,120
important is it uh to have and this is

2137
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:33,520
uh the next segment we're doing a setup

2138
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:35,760
how important is it to have somebody

2139
01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:37,120
like you

2140
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:40,719
um and other scientific minds

2141
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:43,520
professionals uh to

2142
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:46,400
to help with uh

2143
01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:49,199
the the facts in the case uh like kip

2144
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:52,080
thorne in interstellar

2145
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:53,360
to

2146
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:57,120
four video games four books uh four

2147
01:28:01,430 --> 01:27:58,320
movies

2148
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:01,440
um i think that we are smarter now as an

2149
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:03,840
audience and i think we're okay with

2150
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:06,560
digesting the science now so let's try

2151
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:08,560
to keep it on point how important is

2152
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:10,239
that i mean that's part of the things

2153
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:12,400
that that you actually do i mean given

2154
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:14,960
that i started the show kind of as a uh

2155
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:16,239
not with any intention returning to a

2156
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:18,000
show as a kind of uh here some

2157
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:19,920
interesting ideas for sci-fi writers

2158
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:21,120
i've been talking to at the time so i'd

2159
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:23,040
have to keep repeating myself tomorrow i

2160
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:24,960
would say it's very very important

2161
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:26,960
however i would also say that

2162
01:28:30,790 --> 01:28:28,960
the most important things about writing

2163
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,800
sci-fi this force like anything the

2164
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:32,080
story's got to be mostly about the

2165
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,679
characters if your plot and your

2166
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:35,199
characters don't work it doesn't matter

2167
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:36,719
how good you are it should never be

2168
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:39,040
about exposition and second on the end

2169
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:40,400
of that is that

2170
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:42,000
people want whatever you're telling them

2171
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,159
to either be flagged as saying this is

2172
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:46,800
the sci-fi part or they want you to do

2173
01:28:50,550 --> 01:28:48,400
your research it doesn't have to be

2174
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:50,560
about physics you'll be doing the entire

2175
01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:52,800
one on metallurgy or psychology these

2176
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:54,960
are good sci-fi topics

2177
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:57,040
whatever you decide to go in depth on

2178
01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:58,639
and people like a little bit of real

2179
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:01,120
science in depth in their sci-fi do it

2180
01:29:04,629 --> 01:29:02,719
right you know it doesn't have to

2181
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:04,639
overwhelm everything but make sure

2182
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:06,320
you're right on that topic if you choose

2183
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,239
to delve into it at all

2184
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:10,239
make it right uh all the other stuff

2185
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:11,760
though yeah you get a lot of bends and

2186
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,199
stuff i mean like i love the movie

2187
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:15,280
inception uh same guy who did it in

2188
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:18,639
stella and the science of that is bad

2189
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,719
that's not how the brain works but it's

2190
01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:22,639
a great movie you know obviously i

2191
01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:25,040
thought it was a great movie and uh what

2192
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:27,280
would you think about uh

2193
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:28,480
uh

2194
01:29:36,149 --> 01:29:34,719
and the the the new doctor strange

2195
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:36,159
multiverse

2196
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:38,719
um where

2197
01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:40,880
there was elements of science in both of

2198
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,320
them there was more and everything

2199
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:44,400
everywhere all at once

2200
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:45,760
but uh

2201
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:47,120
what did you make of that and do you

2202
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:48,639
think that these kinds of things are

2203
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:49,679
possible

2204
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:50,880
i mean

2205
01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:53,840
with doctor strange probably not i i'm a

2206
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:56,159
huge marvel comics fan since long before

2207
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:58,560
the mcu uh but i can't say long before

2208
01:30:02,629 --> 01:29:59,760
it's been back in the 40s they've been

2209
01:30:04,870 --> 01:30:02,639
around but uh since the 90s i've loved

2210
01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:04,880
marvel comics and uh they never really

2211
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:06,560
do the science very well but they're a

2212
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:08,000
great example of that sheer complexity

2213
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:10,239
of ward building where even though you

2214
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:11,120
know as soon as you keep your

2215
01:30:14,790 --> 01:30:12,560
established cannon inside the thing

2216
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:14,800
reasonably well same with like star wars

2217
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,280
the legendary legends universe or

2218
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:19,199
warhammer 40k or a bunch of other huge

2219
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:20,400
franchises

2220
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:23,120
they are amazing for their own depth and

2221
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:24,960
consistency it doesn't really matter

2222
01:30:27,669 --> 01:30:26,239
that much that they mess up on the

2223
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:27,679
science a lot or just make it up as they

2224
01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:30,239
go they are consistent inside themselves

2225
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,920
and uh that's probably the most

2226
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:33,440
important thing you say if your science

2227
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,360
is bad and people don't like your first

2228
01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:37,760
book or whatever it is then that's what

2229
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:39,920
happened right if on the other hand your

2230
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,719
work was so well and popular that people

2231
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,320
have time to dissect it because they

2232
01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:46,560
want sequels then there's a way called

2233
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:48,719
success here which you can you can go

2234
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:50,080
ahead and fix them up afterwards because

2235
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:51,520
you obviously did something that was so

2236
01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:53,280
good that people don't really mind it

2237
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:55,040
you know you don't watch flash gordon or

2238
01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:57,040
star wars because you're looking for

2239
01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:58,639
great science

2240
01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:01,440
flash gordon okay you need to slow down

2241
01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:03,520
now you need to pump the brakes

2242
01:31:09,189 --> 01:31:05,600
gordon was science fact

2243
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:12,390
and uh but but but here's the thing

2244
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:14,880
uh and we've got to take a break

2245
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:17,440
in and dr strange

2246
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:20,560
it was nothing but a string of paradoxes

2247
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:23,040
that absolutely made everything

2248
01:31:28,229 --> 01:31:26,320
impossible it was ignored and you kind

2249
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:28,239
of have to do that as a viewer you have

2250
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:29,120
to

2251
01:31:33,350 --> 01:31:31,120
just you know some things you just have

2252
01:31:35,350 --> 01:31:33,360
to let rinse down the drain and and

2253
01:31:37,270 --> 01:31:35,360
concentrate on it but everything

2254
01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:37,280
everywhere all at once was the opposite

2255
01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:40,639
of that i felt that uh the paradox issue

2256
01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:43,280
was completely avoided which made it a

2257
01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:45,440
little bit more uh believable from a

2258
01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:47,520
scientific uh standpoint

2259
01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:49,040
i've not seen it

2260
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:50,480
what

2261
01:31:54,950 --> 01:31:52,560
i've not seen that

2262
01:31:57,750 --> 01:31:54,960
i'm always behind on things

2263
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:57,760
i've seen doctor strange but

2264
01:32:02,070 --> 01:31:59,840
our break right here so i can scold

2265
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:02,080
isaac during the break this is fade to

2266
01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:04,320
black i'm yours jimmy church tonight

2267
01:32:09,189 --> 01:32:07,120
isaac arthur and time travel we'll be

2268
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:09,199
right back after this short break on the

2269
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game changer and on x networks i'm here

2270
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with jimmy church stay with us we'll be

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right back

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2273
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2274
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2280
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2289
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them it's called a thunderstorm because

2290
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2322
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jimmy church and fade to black on the

2323
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2324
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2325
01:34:59,750 --> 01:34:57,600
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2326
01:35:01,910 --> 01:34:59,760
or maybe you're a collector just like me

2327
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2328
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2329
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2330
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2331
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2340
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2341
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2342
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2343
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2351
01:36:11,750 --> 01:36:07,830
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2352
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2353
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2355
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2357
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2358
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and you're listening to jimmy church a

2359
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2360
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2366
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2367
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2368
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2369
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2370
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2371
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2372
01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:26,709
welcome back fade to black i am your

2373
01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:28,639
host jimmy church tonight time travel

2374
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:30,560
with isaac arthur

2375
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:33,119
what a great conversation tonight and in

2376
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,880
a lot of respects we're just getting

2377
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:36,400
started

2378
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:39,280
just kicking this thing off there is so

2379
01:37:43,030 --> 01:37:40,560
many

2380
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:43,040
uh avenues uh that you can travel down

2381
01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:45,040
with time travel and

2382
01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:45,840
uh

2383
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:48,239
this is and and here's the thing um

2384
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:50,320
isaac as as

2385
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:51,600
uh

2386
01:37:55,910 --> 01:37:54,480
as as we spider i keep saying spiderweb

2387
01:37:57,830 --> 01:37:55,920
because

2388
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,840
when it comes to time travel i can go in

2389
01:38:03,430 --> 01:37:59,600
any direction right now

2390
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:03,440
and one of the literally um there's a

2391
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:06,000
couple of things i want to suggest one

2392
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:07,280
if we

2393
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:09,600
look at and talk about the fabric of

2394
01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:12,480
space and then we bring in space

2395
01:38:16,629 --> 01:38:14,480
um and and

2396
01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:16,639
and a mass in space

2397
01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:19,119
most people uh

2398
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:20,960
envision

2399
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:24,000
uh another planet another star something

2400
01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:25,040
out there

2401
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:27,679
the same thing applies

2402
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,119
right here

2403
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:31,280
right the earth the last time i check

2404
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:32,639
has mass

2405
01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:36,320
and uh and so does our sun

2406
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:37,119
now

2407
01:38:40,070 --> 01:38:38,960
would that suggest

2408
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:40,080
uh

2409
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:41,040
that

2410
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:47,840
wouldn't it have to wouldn't these same

2411
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:49,440
applications

2412
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:52,639
that einstein presented to us applies

2413
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:53,679
here

2414
01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:56,000
and we've got the moon we've got mars

2415
01:39:02,709 --> 01:38:59,840
we've got a look at jupiter is is pretty

2416
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:02,719
dang big the last time i checked right

2417
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:06,639
so it does space time get affected

2418
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:07,600
here

2419
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:08,560
yes

2420
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:10,159
absolutely we've we've checked this with

2421
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:11,679
experiments as simple as putting two

2422
01:39:16,149 --> 01:39:14,080
atomic clocks one at a higher shelf than

2423
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:16,159
the other so it has less gravity on it

2424
01:39:20,470 --> 01:39:18,159
um you know they're very tiny change but

2425
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:20,480
it's there the it has to do with how

2426
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:22,320
much and again that escape velocity and

2427
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:24,400
algae i used for earlier the time runs

2428
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:25,920
slower here on the surface of earth it

2429
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:27,360
runs at different speeds whether you're

2430
01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:28,800
on top of a mountain at the equator

2431
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:31,760
versus at the poles it runs slower the

2432
01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:33,760
deeper down you all if you're in salt

2433
01:39:38,390 --> 01:39:35,199
lake i'm sorry not salt lake so the

2434
01:39:39,750 --> 01:39:38,400
death valley or um that the

2435
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:39,760
dead sea it's gonna run a little bit

2436
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:40,880
slower there than we're on top of

2437
01:39:45,430 --> 01:39:43,360
everest it runs slower as you get

2438
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:45,440
towards the sun which has even more mass

2439
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:46,800
uh if you're at the center of the sun

2440
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:48,480
that would be the slowest place in this

2441
01:39:52,390 --> 01:39:50,400
solar system for time

2442
01:39:54,149 --> 01:39:52,400
um it's inside of earth it runs slower

2443
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:54,159
too even though there's no gravity right

2444
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:55,920
there because it's balanced out

2445
01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:57,679
um it has to do with how much energy you

2446
01:40:00,950 --> 01:39:59,440
need to leave the spot closer you get to

2447
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:00,960
the center of the galaxy it slows down

2448
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:02,239
even before you get to the center where

2449
01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:04,480
the actual sagittarius a black hole is

2450
01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:05,280
at

2451
01:40:07,990 --> 01:40:06,400
um

2452
01:40:10,390 --> 01:40:08,000
you get outside the edge of the galaxy

2453
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:10,400
time runs fastest uh except in the

2454
01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:12,159
cosmic voids where things are really

2455
01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:14,960
empty that's where time runs closest to

2456
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:17,199
flat right and yet the difference is

2457
01:40:19,990 --> 01:40:19,040
still pretty small you know we're

2458
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,000
talking

2459
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:22,400
seconds on a year kind of thing

2460
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:25,360
now if i get on the phone

2461
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:28,320
with a friend of mine in australia right

2462
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,199
now

2463
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:31,920
they are at tomorrow

2464
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:34,159
okay all right

2465
01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:37,040
yes they are they're at tomorrow they

2466
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:40,400
it is right now august 4th in in

2467
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:41,760
australia

2468
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:43,199
so

2469
01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:44,159
why

2470
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:46,960
can't we i this is not a doofus question

2471
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:49,360
we've all wondered this

2472
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:51,760
why can't we get on a plane fly

2473
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:54,480
backwards against the grain and go to

2474
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:55,920
last week

2475
01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:57,600
well it's uh it's completing two

2476
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:59,760
concepts there the one is where we set

2477
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:01,440
the clock for the day based off where

2478
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:02,800
the sun's at in the sky we have a

2479
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:05,040
universal time code that we use it's

2480
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:08,080
based off of gmt time that's utc and

2481
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:09,920
that's the same for everybody right but

2482
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:11,920
uh where it is concerned for australia

2483
01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:13,040
that's just where you're basing when

2484
01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:15,119
does the day change officially based on

2485
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:17,119
when noon is and most people don't tend

2486
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:18,239
to think about it if you look at your

2487
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:19,600
typical in the united states right now

2488
01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:21,520
we're in daylight savings hour if you

2489
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:23,040
look at sundial you're probably not

2490
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:24,800
going to notice it actually being south

2491
01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:25,840
at noon

2492
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,600
uh and then where you are based in your

2493
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:28,960
time zone is not going to be it will

2494
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:31,199
move it too like new york versus ohio at

2495
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:32,719
noon is not going to have the same

2496
01:41:36,790 --> 01:41:34,480
position of that shadow

2497
01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:36,800
but that in that case is can i just fly

2498
01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:38,159
around the world really fast like

2499
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:39,840
superman backwards and just keep going

2500
01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:42,000
through time zones if i say that that

2501
01:41:45,590 --> 01:41:43,520
one doesn't work now if you could go

2502
01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:45,600
faster than the speed of light

2503
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:47,679
then yes that that would do that

2504
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:49,600
mathematically you would go backwards in

2505
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:52,080
time but you just go much slower you go

2506
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:53,760
slower and slower and slower till time

2507
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,520
stopped and then you went faster it

2508
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:57,360
would start going in reverse

2509
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:58,239
um

2510
01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:58,960
now

2511
01:42:03,430 --> 01:42:01,199
if if if i

2512
01:42:06,550 --> 01:42:03,440
if i had all the money in the world

2513
01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:06,560
and and i lease a private jet on my

2514
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:09,520
birthday and i go back against the grain

2515
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:12,239
into into all of the time zones and i

2516
01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:16,400
celebrate my birthday at at midnight in

2517
01:42:21,990 --> 01:42:19,760
each time zone when it's my birthday

2518
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:22,000
and and i complete the cycle

2519
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:22,880
am i

2520
01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:27,119
no not late wait

2521
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:29,840
technically you might be a day

2522
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:32,400
no no sorry no you would not be i was

2523
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:33,760
quite confused

2524
01:42:37,189 --> 01:42:35,119
if you do that with the warm horse

2525
01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:37,199
allergy we used earlier yes

2526
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:38,560
if you're doing that with uh you know

2527
01:42:42,149 --> 01:42:39,840
slower than like your fashion like

2528
01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:42,159
travel or sorry even just relativistic

2529
01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:44,400
travel yes time will go slower and you

2530
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:46,639
will save some time however you can't do

2531
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:48,000
that just with the time zones because

2532
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:48,960
they don't actually represent a

2533
01:42:51,830 --> 01:42:50,560
different time they just represent a

2534
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:51,840
different time of

2535
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,199
lighting

2536
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:55,679
right man you're killing it for me again

2537
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:58,080
okay so let's talk about yeah we've all

2538
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:01,119
wondered about that we all have don't

2539
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:03,840
don't sit here and say that you have not

2540
01:43:08,390 --> 01:43:05,920
thought about that because you have and

2541
01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:08,400
so of you isaac no i have yeah yeah

2542
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,440
exactly exactly okay now let's talk

2543
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:13,280
about wormholes

2544
01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:17,360
um the einstein rosen bridge which is

2545
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:19,280
that is technically that's that's the

2546
01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:21,280
origin of the wormhole

2547
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:22,159
uh

2548
01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:23,920
theory correct this it's the main woman

2549
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,679
hall theory there's a number of

2550
01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:27,840
different types and again that's the one

2551
01:43:32,709 --> 01:43:29,679
that comes up from general relativity

2552
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:32,719
yeah right okay so

2553
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:34,960
what is

2554
01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:40,800
it the collapsing of a wormhole

2555
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:43,040
or if we go back to

2556
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:44,639
um

2557
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:48,400
uh what's his name george uh lamatra

2558
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:49,360
right

2559
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:57,270
oh he starred in that he was time

2560
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:58,480
traveling

2561
01:44:01,830 --> 01:44:00,400
that was him he was the writer but

2562
01:44:06,550 --> 01:44:01,840
here's the thing

2563
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:06,560
uh disintegrating uh an atom

2564
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:07,520
um

2565
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:10,320
and the the ideas behind this

2566
01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:13,040
um is it i i think we were talking about

2567
01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:15,040
this last night with john uh with uh

2568
01:44:18,070 --> 01:44:17,199
what's up

2569
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:18,080
um

2570
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:20,719
is uh it's a very interesting situation

2571
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:22,800
that we find ourselves in

2572
01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:23,840
and

2573
01:44:28,149 --> 01:44:26,719
is it is it just a matter of trying to

2574
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:28,159
keep it open

2575
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:31,280
and and is that just an amount of energy

2576
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:34,400
that we don't understand or

2577
01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:37,119
would an advanced civilization

2578
01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:40,080
have tackled that and it's simpler

2579
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:42,320
than we would think like the way that

2580
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:44,960
kip thorne presented it in interstellar

2581
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:46,880
or all the way back with carl sagan and

2582
01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,360
of course the movie contact contact yeah

2583
01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:51,360
uh all of the above i mean this is one

2584
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:53,040
of the situations where

2585
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:54,800
since we don't know the physical laws of

2586
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:56,800
reality that cover this stuff that we

2587
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:58,560
haven't discovered yet it's kind of hard

2588
01:45:01,750 --> 01:45:00,320
for say what can advanced civilization

2589
01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:01,760
do you know people say well isaac why

2590
01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:03,600
don't you just say ftl is not possible i

2591
01:45:07,189 --> 01:45:05,520
said well based on what we know physics

2592
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:07,199
citizens and there could be obvious

2593
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:09,040
exceptions there one thing i know for

2594
01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:10,719
certain is that any advanced

2595
01:45:14,950 --> 01:45:12,639
civilization is going to be working very

2596
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:14,960
hard to try to crack how to go faster

2597
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:16,639
than light how to travel in time and how

2598
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:18,880
to beat entropy because of really big

2599
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:20,800
problems worth solving you have to do

2600
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:21,840
some kind of defensive barrier to

2601
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:23,199
prevent someone from jumping back in

2602
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:24,400
time and winning their wars of the year

2603
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:26,320
by blowing your planet up before you got

2604
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:29,760
space flights you know um but uh so they

2605
01:45:32,950 --> 01:45:31,119
would definitely be working on it and if

2606
01:45:35,350 --> 01:45:32,960
there's a solution they're gonna find it

2607
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:35,360
you know if you're throwing i mean

2608
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:36,960
some civilization made up of the

2609
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,719
equivalent of trans humans or trans

2610
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:40,560
aliens full of you know mind

2611
01:45:44,470 --> 01:45:42,400
augmentation and a post-human setup

2612
01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:44,480
where their brains are a million times

2613
01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:46,159
faster and bigger than ours and there's

2614
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:48,239
trillions and trillions of them in some

2615
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:50,239
kardashev civilization yeah they're

2616
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:51,360
going to have people smaller than

2617
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:52,960
einstein here all the guys who sweep the

2618
01:45:56,790 --> 01:45:55,040
floors and their main brains are going

2619
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:56,800
to be on that problem if this can be

2620
01:46:00,550 --> 01:45:59,280
figured out they're gonna but you can be

2621
01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:00,560
the smallest person on the planet you

2622
01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:03,119
still can't make two plus two equal five

2623
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:04,719
and uh and i know there's some math

2624
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:07,199
there's great ways you could do that but

2625
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:08,639
those don't really count because it's

2626
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:10,400
not answering two plus two equals five

2627
01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:17,109
okay so

2628
01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:20,639
um is it uh when

2629
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:23,520
the the preset if you go to

2630
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:26,080
uh contact an interstellar and i know

2631
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:26,880
that

2632
01:46:31,030 --> 01:46:29,119
uh i'm making an another hollywood

2633
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:31,040
comparison here but it's more for

2634
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:33,040
everybody's mind to kind of understand

2635
01:46:38,629 --> 01:46:34,960
what we are suggesting

2636
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:38,639
um the the wormhole aspect of it

2637
01:46:42,229 --> 01:46:40,480
how is that

2638
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:42,239
besides moving

2639
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:43,119
the

2640
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:48,000
but if you are moving from one point of

2641
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:50,880
the universe to the other or

2642
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:53,440
uh the milky way our galaxy

2643
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:56,960
um how is that time travel

2644
01:47:02,709 --> 01:46:59,600
in in the movie contact

2645
01:47:04,550 --> 01:47:02,719
she's gone for 18 hours right

2646
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:04,560
i forget the number but i think that's i

2647
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:07,520
i think that's pretty close um but here

2648
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:11,119
on earth it was a partial second

2649
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:14,080
right pass through and and that was it

2650
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:17,360
but how how is that time travel and how

2651
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:19,280
does that apply

2652
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:22,000
well if i'm going really fast but slower

2653
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:24,000
than light my time slows down the usual

2654
01:47:27,350 --> 01:47:25,520
idea there is that if you've engaged

2655
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:27,360
something that would speed up your time

2656
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:28,800
you passed you know that's where you

2657
01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:29,920
start looking at with the time travel

2658
01:47:32,229 --> 01:47:31,360
paradox or things like that where you've

2659
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:32,239
got

2660
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:33,920
something faster like yes you could have

2661
01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:36,159
more time pass what happened they are

2662
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:38,159
there's a lot of cases and i'm trying to

2663
01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:40,400
remember what actually was for contact

2664
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:41,920
you know when scientists help with

2665
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:43,440
sci-fi things they don't usually insist

2666
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,280
on 100 scientific accuracy because

2667
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:47,280
they're trying to show a key concept

2668
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:48,800
they appreciate that sci-fi can't always

2669
01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:51,119
hit every button but you know you could

2670
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:53,040
potentially have a civilization that was

2671
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:55,040
sending you that information that didn't

2672
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:56,159
exist yet

2673
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:58,080
uh your really big civilizations that

2674
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,600
were around the very biggest of black

2675
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:01,199
holes the ones that would take

2676
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:03,119
trillions of years to form nasty or be

2677
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:05,199
built that might be who's actually you

2678
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:06,880
know you're contacting

2679
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:08,800
we see some examples then like alistair

2680
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:10,880
reynolds novel pushing ice where you

2681
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:12,159
know it just moves back you know they're

2682
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:13,760
moving so far forward in time without

2683
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:15,840
realizing it from their high speeds that

2684
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:17,199
most of the cultures they think they're

2685
01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:19,520
encountering as aliens came millions or

2686
01:48:23,030 --> 01:48:21,040
billions of years after humans went

2687
01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:23,040
extinct but they think it was happening

2688
01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:26,159
simultaneously right right right right

2689
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:27,520
in some of these cases you might

2690
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:29,280
actually have well oh well we figured

2691
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:31,520
out way way ahead in the future and be

2692
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:33,199
able to gather you send yourself forward

2693
01:48:36,629 --> 01:48:35,199
in time and then we sent you back in

2694
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:36,639
time and you could do that with a close

2695
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:38,239
time like loop for instance you could

2696
01:48:42,310 --> 01:48:40,800
say if those work you build this machine

2697
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:42,320
and this machine is your starting point

2698
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:44,320
the moment you engage we can send you

2699
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:46,960
back to that beginning point so you jump

2700
01:48:51,189 --> 01:48:49,440
far away far forward in time or space

2701
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:51,199
and we can send you right back to the to

2702
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:53,040
the first moment that machine was built

2703
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:54,800
or sometime thereafter

2704
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:56,080
that's

2705
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:00,800
relativity well didn't einstein actually

2706
01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:03,280
if if he did address time travel

2707
01:49:07,270 --> 01:49:04,800
directly

2708
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:07,280
he did do it with time loops

2709
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:09,600
um with closed time-like loops well yeah

2710
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:12,239
with time loops um and what the case is

2711
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:15,520
there is in if i move that that singular

2712
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:17,599
that slow time moment of of the

2713
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,760
black hole if i'm moving that around so

2714
01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:21,199
time is passed less for it and i bring

2715
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:22,880
it back i got the twin paradox thing we

2716
01:49:26,629 --> 01:49:25,119
have very low times pass for that

2717
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:26,639
that becomes our moment zero and that's

2718
01:49:30,070 --> 01:49:28,800
why i can step back around too in a case

2719
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:30,080
like that how that works out with the

2720
01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:31,840
rest of the universe is

2721
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:34,159
really hard to say and then something

2722
01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:35,760
that that would automatically cause you

2723
01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:37,199
to have like another split off universe

2724
01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:38,960
that was walled off you know that might

2725
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:41,199
be one of those national big bang or

2726
01:49:44,709 --> 01:49:43,520
micro universe things yeah stop right

2727
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:44,719
there

2728
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:46,960
if that is the case

2729
01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:49,760
does the rest of the universe experience

2730
01:49:55,830 --> 01:49:51,760
the same thing

2731
01:49:58,070 --> 01:49:55,840
or is this completely localized or does

2732
01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:58,080
every planet go through that time loop

2733
01:50:01,510 --> 01:50:00,159
does every star system go through that

2734
01:50:02,709 --> 01:50:01,520
time loop

2735
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:02,719
you know i actually looked at that case

2736
01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:04,000
in the upcoming episode i was talking

2737
01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:06,400
about time wars

2738
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:07,760
what happens like

2739
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:09,119
with a lot of things like a quantum

2740
01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:10,880
zerba event where we say well i you know

2741
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:12,320
i'm looking to see what happens is this

2742
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:15,040
cat alive or dead and i look inside that

2743
01:50:19,830 --> 01:50:17,599
box and by the way the the cat dead or

2744
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:19,840
alive thing is exactly contradictory to

2745
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:22,239
multiverses these are opposed theories

2746
01:50:27,589 --> 01:50:25,119
that are both true at once um but if i

2747
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:27,599
have an event like that let's say i'm a

2748
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:29,679
distant alien looking from a billion

2749
01:50:34,629 --> 01:50:31,679
years away a billion light years away

2750
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:34,639
and i i got the great telescope or the

2751
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:36,400
path once we look at it and somebody

2752
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:38,080
opens that box and the first time i see

2753
01:50:41,270 --> 01:50:39,760
it and is it still randomly being

2754
01:50:42,149 --> 01:50:41,280
decided by me

2755
01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:42,159
and what happened to the rest of the

2756
01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:43,520
universe that was affected by that now

2757
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:46,080
that i is the observer of that cat a

2758
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:47,440
billion light years away in a billion

2759
01:50:51,189 --> 01:50:49,119
years in the future have now seen it

2760
01:50:53,189 --> 01:50:51,199
being alive or dead and the whole

2761
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:53,199
universe reacts on that did a place

2762
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:54,800
where it was actually dead and the owner

2763
01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:57,440
was saddened by that and and decided to

2764
01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:59,760
build a doomsday device to blow up earth

2765
01:51:03,589 --> 01:51:01,520
uh did that reality no longer happen

2766
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,599
because of uh me looking for a billion

2767
01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:05,280
light years away and see the cat was

2768
01:51:09,189 --> 01:51:07,119
still alive and he's all good now and

2769
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:09,199
they're going to become a space empire

2770
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:11,920
right those kind of paradoxes are

2771
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:13,360
very tricky because we talk about things

2772
01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:15,199
like alternate timelines or alternate

2773
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:16,480
universes

2774
01:51:19,589 --> 01:51:18,000
you could potentially have several

2775
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:19,599
different versions of reality going on

2776
01:51:23,669 --> 01:51:22,159
inside the same observable universe

2777
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:23,679
vitamins the moment that there are light

2778
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:25,119
cones actually you know set with each

2779
01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:27,679
other that their event horizons do which

2780
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:30,800
is not just limited black holes

2781
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:32,639
now uh

2782
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:35,040
you know i mean this is a time travel

2783
01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:38,480
question but it sort of is but it's uh

2784
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:40,480
from what you just said

2785
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:41,679
if we are

2786
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,440
standing on earth

2787
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:45,440
you and i we're in our backyard and

2788
01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:47,360
we're looking at a star right we're

2789
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:50,159
looking at the andromeda smudge

2790
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:53,520
right okay and we understand that it's x

2791
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:55,520
amount of light years away thousand

2792
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:57,360
light years ten million years whatever

2793
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:59,040
two million whatever it is that we're

2794
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:01,040
looking i'm just stars andromeda

2795
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:02,560
whatever

2796
01:52:07,830 --> 01:52:06,560
but that is relative to where we are

2797
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:07,840
standing

2798
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:10,639
on earth that's how long that light has

2799
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:13,199
taken to reach isaac and jimmy standing

2800
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:14,800
in my backyard

2801
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:18,480
but if you have like the james webb

2802
01:52:21,990 --> 01:52:19,199
and

2803
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:22,000
the telescope is looking

2804
01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:27,350
is it still

2805
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:30,639
2 million light years away or is it

2806
01:52:34,870 --> 01:52:33,280
a million light years away if it's that

2807
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:34,880
much closer

2808
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:37,520
right are you looking past

2809
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:39,040
right because the light would have

2810
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:40,239
already

2811
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:42,800
we're looking at it at a different

2812
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:45,199
at a different point in a in a linear

2813
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:46,159
sense

2814
01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:48,719
so is the james webb looking at stuff

2815
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:50,320
closer to

2816
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:54,080
its its current timeline as opposed to

2817
01:52:57,990 --> 01:52:56,639
how long light takes to reach earth

2818
01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:58,000
no the james webb can actually look

2819
01:53:01,830 --> 01:53:00,320
further back in time accurately but uh

2820
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:01,840
it it hasn't been to do with when the

2821
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:03,520
lights um it's just the strength of how

2822
01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:05,599
well we can see it uh the light that

2823
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:07,840
hits it is is any photon that's had time

2824
01:53:12,070 --> 01:53:10,000
to travel to it so for instance there's

2825
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:12,080
going to have ones from 380 000 years

2826
01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:14,320
into the after the big bang the the last

2827
01:53:17,830 --> 01:53:16,080
surface is

2828
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:17,840
the surface of last scattering which is

2829
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:19,280
the edge of the universe for practical

2830
01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:21,520
edge is a giant wall there of of old

2831
01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:23,440
light that we call cosmic microwave

2832
01:53:26,790 --> 01:53:24,719
background radiation from the whole

2833
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:26,800
universe was as hot as a star

2834
01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:28,480
um and then of course to be looking at

2835
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:29,520
something that was right in front of if

2836
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,719
you put your hand in front of the james

2837
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:32,960
bond telescope uh you know if you

2838
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:34,080
something on the other side of the moon

2839
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:36,080
and you can do that uh it would see your

2840
01:53:40,390 --> 01:53:38,480
hand still it would see it as it was the

2841
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:40,400
nanosecond before when your light left

2842
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:41,840
your hand it's just getting them

2843
01:53:44,790 --> 01:53:43,440
received but it doesn't let you look

2844
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:44,800
further back in time yeah i mean in

2845
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:46,239
terms of accuracy you can see a lot

2846
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:48,000
better because you can see the

2847
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:50,320
much thinner haze of what uh you know

2848
01:53:54,149 --> 01:53:51,760
tiny little photons is much higher

2849
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:54,159
resolution so it can see more i

2850
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:55,840
shouldn't say tiny little photons if

2851
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:58,239
there are far fewer photons for an event

2852
01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:00,800
that far away in time and space reaching

2853
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:02,639
it so it has the resolution to be able

2854
01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:04,400
to make an image out of that

2855
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:05,679
so

2856
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:08,320
you are suggesting that what i am saying

2857
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:10,719
is accurate if something is a thousand

2858
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:12,639
light years away and you have a high

2859
01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:15,360
resolution telescope and you are looking

2860
01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:18,639
at it at a spot that would only be

2861
01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:19,520
say

2862
01:54:26,070 --> 01:54:22,639
a hundred light years away right in

2863
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:26,080
distance are you then looking at it in

2864
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:29,520
that specific time not a thousand years

2865
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:32,560
indifference but a hundred years

2866
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,880
i'm not sure i understood that one uh i

2867
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:36,800
mean however far away it is well i

2868
01:54:40,629 --> 01:54:38,719
shouldn't say how far away it is however

2869
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,639
long the light's been traveling to that

2870
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:42,960
until it reaches you that's that's when

2871
01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:44,960
you're looking back in time to there are

2872
01:54:47,589 --> 01:54:46,080
things that might be a billion light

2873
01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:47,599
years away from us now where we're

2874
01:54:50,550 --> 01:54:49,360
actually seeing light that left them 500

2875
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:50,560
million years ago

2876
01:54:53,910 --> 01:54:52,080
uh just because there's that expanding

2877
01:54:56,709 --> 01:54:53,920
space between us thing which

2878
01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:56,719
is not as confusing as it sounds like

2879
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:58,480
yeah and so that's what i'm suggesting

2880
01:55:01,830 --> 01:55:00,800
is the telescope looking at

2881
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:01,840
uh

2882
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:05,040
the light as it has traveled only

2883
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:07,199
200 light years instead of the full

2884
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:08,320
thousand

2885
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:09,920
only if it's an object that's 200 light

2886
01:55:13,350 --> 01:55:11,199
years away

2887
01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:13,360
ah so it doesn't change you blew it for

2888
01:55:17,030 --> 01:55:14,880
me again

2889
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:17,040
it just it's the it does a better job

2890
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,440
absorbing those bits of light to see

2891
01:55:25,990 --> 01:55:22,000
clearly yeah i get it i get it i get it

2892
01:55:27,669 --> 01:55:26,000
all right now let's uh let's again shift

2893
01:55:29,589 --> 01:55:27,679
this around

2894
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:29,599
if

2895
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:39,760
time that'd be pretty cool to go back

2896
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:42,960
into the 50s would be pretty cool right

2897
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:47,040
now if but you couldn't come back

2898
01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:49,280
right you couldn't come back

2899
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:50,080
the

2900
01:56:02,070 --> 01:55:59,760
universe

2901
01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:02,080
by removing

2902
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:03,440
atoms

2903
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:06,560
particles at this point in time

2904
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:08,239
cutting them out

2905
01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:10,000
and placing them

2906
01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:10,880
at

2907
01:56:16,870 --> 01:56:13,520
50 60 70 years ago

2908
01:56:17,830 --> 01:56:16,880
and now there's more particles

2909
01:56:21,270 --> 01:56:17,840
in that

2910
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:21,280
than the universe knew about and there's

2911
01:56:25,669 --> 01:56:22,960
less in the future

2912
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:25,679
does that upset things do we absolutely

2913
01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:29,280
yeah there was no like if you cannot

2914
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:31,119
change the mass of time but could send

2915
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:32,960
information back let's say i just i

2916
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:34,239
you're not allowed to send any more

2917
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:36,080
massive energy back at all it's got to

2918
01:56:39,910 --> 01:56:37,760
be an even budget you're teleporting

2919
01:56:42,149 --> 01:56:39,920
into something as a 120 into you you

2920
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,159
still affect time you cannot get around

2921
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:44,800
this because even the one neutrino that

2922
01:56:49,109 --> 01:56:47,199
got deflected off you uh differently by

2923
01:56:50,950 --> 01:56:49,119
your position your pattern while you're

2924
01:56:53,270 --> 01:56:50,960
in your hidden mountain cave that wasn't

2925
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:53,280
affecting anything at all even that

2926
01:56:57,430 --> 01:56:56,080
changed it even that tiny little change

2927
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:57,440
changed up and created additional

2928
01:57:01,270 --> 01:57:00,000
realities we start actually adding mass

2929
01:57:02,629 --> 01:57:01,280
universes

2930
01:57:03,830 --> 01:57:02,639
and when we're discussing multiverse

2931
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:03,840
theory there are

2932
01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:05,119
so many different versions the word

2933
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:07,520
multiverse very appropriately that apply

2934
01:57:10,390 --> 01:57:08,639
but the one where it's just every

2935
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:10,400
possible reality that you could

2936
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,400
configure particles into right you

2937
01:57:16,870 --> 01:57:14,239
shuffle the deck every single version

2938
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:16,880
has one this number is insanely huge we

2939
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:19,040
actually have to use scientific notation

2940
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:20,880
on top of scientific notation these like

2941
01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:23,360
10 to the 10 to the 700 right to

2942
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,840
describe these huge numbers once we said

2943
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:27,760
them down they would actually saw 70. i

2944
01:57:31,990 --> 01:57:30,400
think it's 10 to 170. the numbers though

2945
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:32,000
so big that if you actually wrote them

2946
01:57:35,510 --> 01:57:33,599
down on a piece of paper

2947
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:35,520
they would collapse into a black hole

2948
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:37,119
that's how massive some of these numbers

2949
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:39,199
off right right

2950
01:57:43,510 --> 01:57:41,599
i get it i get it but in this case

2951
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:43,520
you've changed that now you've added one

2952
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:45,040
particle to this

2953
01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:46,639
it's the same as how many combinations

2954
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:49,119
of cards you have if i have you know a

2955
01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:51,040
deck of colors 52 cards the number of

2956
01:57:56,229 --> 01:57:53,760
combinations that can be in is a very

2957
01:57:57,830 --> 01:57:56,239
large number but if i have 53 cards i

2958
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:57,840
have to multiply that very large number

2959
01:57:59,990 --> 01:57:58,719
again

2960
01:58:02,149 --> 01:58:00,000
in there and there's so many more

2961
01:58:03,830 --> 01:58:02,159
options just because of that one more

2962
01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:03,840
atom in the universe of which there was

2963
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:06,800
10 to 80 atoms like that um changes how

2964
01:58:11,589 --> 01:58:09,199
many possibilities there are by more

2965
01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:11,599
than they were before way more like an

2966
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:13,679
entire order of magnitude more and that

2967
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:15,360
would be even more if i add a person

2968
01:58:18,870 --> 01:58:17,599
into the mix so when you do something

2969
01:58:20,709 --> 01:58:18,880
like that you'll branch off so many

2970
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:20,719
additional timelines and that's actually

2971
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,920
how you have that case where i said

2972
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:23,280
earlier if you went back in time with

2973
01:58:26,870 --> 01:58:25,440
your own mass every version of you that

2974
01:58:28,629 --> 01:58:26,880
wouldn't did that at that same point in

2975
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:28,639
time there'd be so many of them you

2976
01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:31,040
collapse and cause a black hole

2977
01:58:35,030 --> 01:58:32,239
just for the ones decide we're at the

2978
01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:35,040
same time we could we could virtually

2979
01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:37,920
end the universe like this so the only

2980
01:58:42,109 --> 01:58:40,800
answer to that certainly mathematically

2981
01:58:44,790 --> 01:58:42,119
is to

2982
01:58:47,109 --> 01:58:44,800
instantaneously at that moment

2983
01:58:49,270 --> 01:58:47,119
uh create another dimension another

2984
01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:49,280
another universe another multiverse

2985
01:58:54,070 --> 01:58:52,159
because if it occurred in this universe

2986
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:54,080
it would be the end of everything right

2987
01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:55,679
that one's okay though if you can travel

2988
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:57,360
to another universe you create a whole

2989
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:59,679
new universe as a war in the process and

2990
01:59:02,390 --> 01:59:01,199
people get bothered by that sometimes

2991
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:02,400
because it violates conservation of

2992
01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:03,599
energy just making universe out of

2993
01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:05,360
nowhere but we only care about

2994
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:08,080
conservation of energy inside the

2995
01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:10,000
existing universe how many combinations

2996
01:59:14,149 --> 01:59:12,400
there doesn't really matter um but you

2997
01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:14,159
make this whole new universe

2998
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:15,840
and it's got all these new options and

2999
01:59:20,149 --> 01:59:17,920
that's consistent and that wouldn't

3000
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:20,159
cause paradoxes either because let's say

3001
01:59:24,070 --> 01:59:21,840
next year i invent a time machine and i

3002
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:24,080
go back to your 1950 that causes

3003
01:59:27,430 --> 01:59:25,440
paradoxes only if i'm going to my own

3004
01:59:29,030 --> 01:59:27,440
timeline if i'm going

3005
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:29,040
to a multiverse in which that's the one

3006
01:59:32,870 --> 01:59:31,440
new thing that happened that's fine but

3007
01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:32,880
we did an entire episode of that called

3008
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:34,320
infinite and probability issues which

3009
01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:36,320
people probably remember was the quantum

3010
01:59:39,350 --> 01:59:38,159
cheeseburger episode uh where we

3011
01:59:41,350 --> 01:59:39,360
basically talked about all the crazy

3012
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:41,360
things start happening we have those

3013
01:59:45,510 --> 01:59:43,599
vastly huge number of alternate

3014
01:59:47,990 --> 01:59:45,520
universes and timelines so you would

3015
01:59:49,669 --> 01:59:48,000
have one for instance where ftl travel

3016
01:59:52,070 --> 01:59:49,679
was not possible but everybody thought

3017
01:59:53,990 --> 01:59:52,080
it was because just coincidentally you

3018
01:59:54,870 --> 01:59:54,000
were in the one timeline in which every

3019
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:54,880
time

3020
01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:57,360
somebody turned on the ftl drive which

3021
02:00:00,709 --> 01:59:58,960
was actually a doomsday device that blew

3022
02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:00,719
up the post who touched it they were

3023
02:00:05,030 --> 02:00:03,760
vaporized but at the expected place they

3024
02:00:07,510 --> 02:00:05,040
were supposed to materialize they

3025
02:00:09,189 --> 02:00:07,520
thought that actually happened that is

3026
02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:09,199
theoretically possible the chance of it

3027
02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:12,000
are mathematically ridiculously tiny and

3028
02:00:14,870 --> 02:00:13,280
yet there would be a universe in which

3029
02:00:16,709 --> 02:00:14,880
that happened not only once but

3030
02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:16,719
coincidentally every single time

3031
02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:18,080
somebody did it

3032
02:00:20,790 --> 02:00:19,520
and that's the kind of weird stuff you

3033
02:00:22,070 --> 02:00:20,800
could have a case like that because you

3034
02:00:24,149 --> 02:00:22,080
would not know

3035
02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:24,159
that uh it was just a freak coincidence

3036
02:00:28,070 --> 02:00:26,159
you know

3037
02:00:30,229 --> 02:00:28,080
there uh we need to take our break right

3038
02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:30,239
here but we're going to continue this

3039
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:31,760
when we come back after the break it's

3040
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:34,000
one of the most fascinating aspects

3041
02:00:38,709 --> 02:00:36,880
of of time travel and also when we come

3042
02:00:40,550 --> 02:00:38,719
back after the break

3043
02:00:43,189 --> 02:00:40,560
the earth is moving

3044
02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:43,199
if you're moving in time

3045
02:00:47,430 --> 02:00:45,840
how do you not end up in space

3046
02:00:50,229 --> 02:00:47,440
we'll talk about that when we come back

3047
02:00:51,149 --> 02:00:50,239
after the break stay with us

3048
02:00:57,260 --> 02:00:51,159
hi

3049
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3160
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3161
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:24,790
i gotta stretch my brain muscles i gotta

3162
02:06:29,430 --> 02:06:27,760
it's isaac arthur i gotta kind of strike

3163
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:29,440
i gotta get the blood

3164
02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:32,159
into my frontal lobes it's the only way

3165
02:06:35,189 --> 02:06:33,920
i can make it through this show

3166
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:35,199
it's uh

3167
02:06:39,589 --> 02:06:36,960
you know i'm just being honest with

3168
02:06:41,589 --> 02:06:39,599
everybody uh isaac man you make me you

3169
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:41,599
make me think

3170
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:43,840
and and and you do that with everybody

3171
02:06:47,990 --> 02:06:46,960
and that is uh that's the success of

3172
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:48,000
your show

3173
02:06:52,149 --> 02:06:50,560
uh you you cause people to think even

3174
02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:52,159
though you're a complete debunking

3175
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:53,360
skeptic

3176
02:06:56,950 --> 02:06:54,239
um

3177
02:06:59,189 --> 02:06:56,960
uh with uh with all of that one day man

3178
02:07:01,109 --> 02:06:59,199
i'm gonna get you abducted and it's

3179
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:01,119
gonna be a whole nother science and

3180
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:03,599
futurism with isaac arthur it's gonna be

3181
02:07:08,390 --> 02:07:05,679
a whole another show my man

3182
02:07:09,350 --> 02:07:08,400
um okay how

3183
02:07:13,350 --> 02:07:09,360
how

3184
02:07:17,589 --> 02:07:13,360
would be

3185
02:07:19,750 --> 02:07:17,599
is uh i'm i'm gonna travel back in time

3186
02:07:21,669 --> 02:07:19,760
and i'm gonna go back to the 1950s i'm

3187
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:21,679
gonna hit a nice beach

3188
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:24,000
and look at the invention of the bikini

3189
02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:26,800
and have pina coladas and

3190
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:30,079
and and i've got my my beach wear on and

3191
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:31,760
then

3192
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:33,840
i'm out in space and i get to look at it

3193
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:35,920
for about a tenth of a second before i'm

3194
02:07:42,470 --> 02:07:39,280
frozen solid and i would be like what

3195
02:07:47,350 --> 02:07:44,390
you probably have about 30 seconds or so

3196
02:07:50,390 --> 02:07:47,360
that's how you call this yes

3197
02:07:53,990 --> 02:07:50,400
30 seconds to just freak out right just

3198
02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:54,000
lose my mind but but but how can we be

3199
02:07:58,550 --> 02:07:55,679
assured of that uh

3200
02:08:01,910 --> 02:07:58,560
you know were not only

3201
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:01,920
um is the earth orbiting the sun we know

3202
02:08:06,069 --> 02:08:04,639
that but the earth is also rotating yep

3203
02:08:08,149 --> 02:08:06,079
so you want to make sure that you're not

3204
02:08:10,790 --> 02:08:08,159
in the middle of the pacific ocean uh

3205
02:08:12,629 --> 02:08:10,800
when you land how do we prevent this i

3206
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:12,639
can see it worse now you try to like uh

3207
02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:14,000
like let's say i'm stepping through a

3208
02:08:18,069 --> 02:08:16,400
wormhole gate to another location if the

3209
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:18,079
speeds of those things aren't matched

3210
02:08:21,830 --> 02:08:20,079
properly you know your classic wormhole

3211
02:08:23,750 --> 02:08:21,840
gate like you see in stargaze you step

3212
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:23,760
outside the thing and you're moving 500

3213
02:08:26,790 --> 02:08:24,880
miles an hour because that's the

3214
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:26,800
relative difference in speeds or you

3215
02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:28,239
jump across the edge of the universe

3216
02:08:32,470 --> 02:08:30,239
where everything's moving away from us

3217
02:08:33,830 --> 02:08:32,480
at say 99 of light speed you step out

3218
02:08:36,149 --> 02:08:33,840
and kaboom

3219
02:08:38,069 --> 02:08:36,159
isaac asimov had the best answer for

3220
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:38,079
this one there was a hand wave he said

3221
02:08:42,709 --> 02:08:40,400
you this was in his novel in eternity

3222
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:42,719
which is is probably the the best one

3223
02:08:46,390 --> 02:08:44,320
besides asian wells time machine out

3224
02:08:47,750 --> 02:08:46,400
there for time travel

3225
02:08:49,589 --> 02:08:47,760
and uh the idea is that you're just

3226
02:08:51,430 --> 02:08:49,599
going to be following along with time

3227
02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:51,440
the gravity of your plan doesn't go away

3228
02:08:53,990 --> 02:08:53,119
you're stuck with it and you move with

3229
02:08:55,510 --> 02:08:54,000
it

3230
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:55,520
and since there is no

3231
02:08:58,390 --> 02:08:56,719
center of the universe that we're aware

3232
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:58,400
of anyway that every place is

3233
02:09:01,669 --> 02:09:00,320
effectively is a good location to be the

3234
02:09:04,229 --> 02:09:01,679
centers anything else that there really

3235
02:09:05,510 --> 02:09:04,239
is all motions relative to each other

3236
02:09:07,270 --> 02:09:05,520
there's no particular reason to think

3237
02:09:09,830 --> 02:09:07,280
that if you jump back in time that you

3238
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:09,840
would exit another location of course

3239
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:11,440
that could be a problem too with fast

3240
02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:13,520
night travel is that it's based off of

3241
02:09:16,390 --> 02:09:14,800
jumping through a one horse you might

3242
02:09:18,870 --> 02:09:16,400
find yourself arriving at the exact same

3243
02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:18,880
location you left just backwards in time

3244
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:21,280
and now you still got let's say from

3245
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:23,280
doctor who had to walk around the long

3246
02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:24,719
way you know

3247
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:27,119
so you jump back in time 100 light 100

3248
02:09:32,709 --> 02:09:28,639
years but now you have to go fly to your

3249
02:09:39,109 --> 02:09:36,709
insanely complex math uh to calculate

3250
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:39,119
the position of the planet

3251
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:41,119
relative to the year

3252
02:09:47,109 --> 02:09:44,560
um also the rotation of the planet so

3253
02:09:49,109 --> 02:09:47,119
you would have to calculate all of this

3254
02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:49,119
into your machine

3255
02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:52,000
for your destination so you do arrive

3256
02:10:01,109 --> 02:09:56,239
back on earth wherever it is in in the

3257
02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:01,119
calendar year and also the time of day

3258
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:02,639
a few meters you arrived your foot in

3259
02:10:06,709 --> 02:10:04,800
the ground

3260
02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:06,719
or 100 feet above it

3261
02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:09,119
oh and and a building constructed on

3262
02:10:14,229 --> 02:10:11,760
your head that would that would uh

3263
02:10:15,830 --> 02:10:14,239
kind of or the lack of a building yeah i

3264
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:15,840
mean from a friction standpoint you you

3265
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:17,760
assume that you're kind of like stuck to

3266
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:20,320
the location as it moves but from a

3267
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:22,880
mathematical calculation point of view

3268
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:24,400
the universe and every particle and is

3269
02:10:27,990 --> 02:10:25,599
expanding away from each other

3270
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:28,000
simultaneously we are rotating around

3271
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:30,239
the galaxy in a group of co-moving stars

3272
02:10:33,910 --> 02:10:32,639
that occasionally loses or gains members

3273
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:33,920
and cross over a bunch of other ones

3274
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:35,440
like alpha centauri is not one of our

3275
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:37,520
national native members and it's always

3276
02:10:40,470 --> 02:10:39,040
been the closest star to us nor hasn't

3277
02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:40,480
always been that's right these things

3278
02:10:43,589 --> 02:10:41,840
are going to move and the planet

3279
02:10:45,589 --> 02:10:43,599
actually kind of corkscrews around the

3280
02:10:47,350 --> 02:10:45,599
galaxy as we move because

3281
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:47,360
uh we don't actually orbit with the

3282
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:48,960
plane of the galaxy i think most people

3283
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:50,880
assume that earth is rotating along that

3284
02:10:55,030 --> 02:10:53,280
plane the sun does mostly it actually

3285
02:10:58,229 --> 02:10:55,040
bobs up and down as it goes like most

3286
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:58,239
stars but um we rotate at kind of like a

3287
02:11:03,109 --> 02:11:01,199
cocked 60 degree angle off of that so if

3288
02:11:05,830 --> 02:11:03,119
you if you trace earth moving around the

3289
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:05,840
galaxy center we look like a pig's tail

3290
02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:08,800
going around it and and the galaxy is

3291
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:12,239
moving too yes and space is expanding i

3292
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:14,320
mean all of this would have to be part

3293
02:11:18,470 --> 02:11:16,320
of your calculations

3294
02:11:21,669 --> 02:11:18,480
uh to make sure you arrive at the gate

3295
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:21,679
that you want to step off on right it'll

3296
02:11:25,030 --> 02:11:23,440
be very hard to do that and and the

3297
02:11:26,870 --> 02:11:25,040
question is what are you actually fixing

3298
02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:26,880
the two and

3299
02:11:31,589 --> 02:11:28,960
here's another example i want to go

3300
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:31,599
ahead and uh you know

3301
02:11:35,109 --> 02:11:33,520
replace myself onto some piece of object

3302
02:11:36,790 --> 02:11:35,119
because i can't move mass back in time i

3303
02:11:38,470 --> 02:11:36,800
can just move data patterns so i'm going

3304
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:38,480
to teleport back to something how

3305
02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:40,480
exactly am i actually managing to figure

3306
02:11:44,629 --> 02:11:43,280
out which atoms are where on me and on

3307
02:11:46,550 --> 02:11:44,639
some distant object that i'm going to

3308
02:11:48,149 --> 02:11:46,560
switch places with so to speak or

3309
02:11:50,390 --> 02:11:48,159
realign especially because they move

3310
02:11:53,589 --> 02:11:50,400
around you know people talk about like

3311
02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:53,599
roku's vasculus or locos bacillus where

3312
02:11:58,550 --> 02:11:56,079
some future ai is going to

3313
02:11:59,910 --> 02:11:58,560
uh resurrect you from you know the

3314
02:12:02,149 --> 02:11:59,920
calculating where every animal your

3315
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:02,159
brain was that's not how that works you

3316
02:12:06,390 --> 02:12:04,320
know you uh you're not static in terms

3317
02:12:08,709 --> 02:12:06,400
of your brain like that if you vaporize

3318
02:12:10,149 --> 02:12:08,719
somebody's head or leave them in a crypt

3319
02:12:11,350 --> 02:12:10,159
their brain is scattered around things

3320
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:11,360
that would be so complicated to

3321
02:12:15,910 --> 02:12:14,159
calculate even a non-quantum universe

3322
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:15,920
that you need a computer bigger than the

3323
02:12:19,109 --> 02:12:17,920
universe to do it and that's probably

3324
02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:19,119
what's going to work out with that one

3325
02:12:22,870 --> 02:12:20,800
too is if you want to teleport things

3326
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:22,880
around through space and time you would

3327
02:12:26,470 --> 02:12:24,960
probably need a computer that was more

3328
02:12:28,950 --> 02:12:26,480
powerful than anything you could

3329
02:12:31,189 --> 02:12:28,960
actually have in it okay that that was

3330
02:12:33,189 --> 02:12:31,199
five poo poos tonight that you've done

3331
02:12:35,589 --> 02:12:33,199
on this whole thing and we're not going

3332
02:12:37,189 --> 02:12:35,599
to get to number six and i'm i'm i'm

3333
02:12:42,149 --> 02:12:37,199
gonna tell you why

3334
02:12:43,109 --> 02:12:42,159
um there has to be let's let's shift

3335
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:43,119
this

3336
02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:45,040
to

3337
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:47,280
uh an exoplanet that's just been

3338
02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:48,960
discovered okay

3339
02:12:54,069 --> 02:12:51,679
and and one of the things that we hear a

3340
02:12:57,109 --> 02:12:54,079
lot with exoplanets

3341
02:12:59,910 --> 02:12:57,119
is that it's its orbit around its host

3342
02:13:02,550 --> 02:12:59,920
star is three days right we hear these

3343
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:02,560
numbers right

3344
02:13:07,790 --> 02:13:05,280
so we we try to imagine

3345
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:07,800
that because here it takes a year takes

3346
02:13:12,550 --> 02:13:11,040
305 days for us to do it and just

3347
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:12,560
imagine

3348
02:13:17,990 --> 02:13:15,280
that happening

3349
02:13:20,310 --> 02:13:18,000
over a three-day period right that's

3350
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:20,320
like that's that's an insane amount of

3351
02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:21,280
speed

3352
02:13:26,629 --> 02:13:23,199
but we hear it over and over again

3353
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:26,639
apparently earth is very very slow

3354
02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:29,920
trying to catch a transiting star

3355
02:13:35,350 --> 02:13:32,800
at earth speed we'd have to wait a year

3356
02:13:37,750 --> 02:13:35,360
for that transit to come back around if

3357
02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:37,760
we suspected a planet being there that's

3358
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:40,079
just the way it is but

3359
02:13:43,510 --> 02:13:41,920
and here's here's the thing here's the

3360
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:43,520
rub

3361
02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:47,520
if you and i it's a perfect earth rocky

3362
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:50,560
planet oxygen nitrogen

3363
02:13:56,310 --> 02:13:53,119
everything's there water atmosphere

3364
02:13:57,430 --> 02:13:56,320
biosphere things are growing type m

3365
02:13:59,430 --> 02:13:57,440
planets

3366
02:14:02,069 --> 02:13:59,440
perfect man perfect they even have

3367
02:14:03,589 --> 02:14:02,079
casinos but you and i

3368
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:03,599
go there

3369
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:04,800
and we

3370
02:14:08,950 --> 02:14:07,199
with our body

3371
02:14:11,109 --> 02:14:08,960
in our dna

3372
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:11,119
right and we're used to the sun rising

3373
02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:13,040
and setting in the east and the west in

3374
02:14:18,229 --> 02:14:15,119
our years and our days and 24-hour

3375
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:18,239
cycles and we age a certain way

3376
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:21,679
we go onto a planet that is orbiting its

3377
02:14:28,229 --> 02:14:23,199
sun

3378
02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:28,239
its year is three days happens to time

3379
02:14:32,149 --> 02:14:30,560
it will be running slightly slower there

3380
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:32,159
uh but not as much as you're probably

3381
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:34,159
thinking what's happening there is it

3382
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:36,400
orbits very quick because how fast you

3383
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:38,239
orbit a star is mostly based how close

3384
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:40,000
you are to it and what that star's mass

3385
02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:40,719
is

3386
02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:41,760
um

3387
02:14:46,229 --> 02:14:43,440
a planet that was actually habitable and

3388
02:14:48,790 --> 02:14:46,239
orbited a star in three of all days uh

3389
02:14:50,950 --> 02:14:48,800
timeline wise you know 72 hours that

3390
02:14:54,069 --> 02:14:50,960
would only be possible around the very

3391
02:14:55,589 --> 02:14:54,079
tiniest of red dwarfs you're like m9s

3392
02:14:58,229 --> 02:14:55,599
everywhere else such a planet would be

3393
02:14:59,910 --> 02:14:58,239
scorching hot and uh this is one of the

3394
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:59,920
parts of the exoplanets is that it's

3395
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:01,520
easier to see ones that are very close

3396
02:15:05,669 --> 02:15:03,599
to their sun and it's very easy to see

3397
02:15:07,109 --> 02:15:05,679
once they're very big as a result of

3398
02:15:09,430 --> 02:15:07,119
which almost all the exoplanets we've

3399
02:15:12,709 --> 02:15:09,440
seen thus far are either very big

3400
02:15:13,990 --> 02:15:12,719
jupiter-like planets or very hot or both

3401
02:15:15,589 --> 02:15:14,000
and it's not that we think those are

3402
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:15,599
particularly normal and common compared

3403
02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:17,360
to stars like or plants like oh this is

3404
02:15:19,910 --> 02:15:18,079
just

3405
02:15:22,069 --> 02:15:19,920
it's easier to see the giant boating

3406
02:15:25,669 --> 02:15:22,079
planet than it is the tiny comfortable

3407
02:15:27,430 --> 02:15:25,679
one um but uh in the case of like that

3408
02:15:29,990 --> 02:15:27,440
case your time's not moving that much

3409
02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:30,000
slower even near the sun i think it's

3410
02:15:34,390 --> 02:15:32,400
i'd have to run the numbers but it'd be

3411
02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:34,400
not much not enough that you you could

3412
02:15:38,709 --> 02:15:35,920
catch it on your watch over the course

3413
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:38,719
of a year of high speeds um but not very

3414
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:40,480
big and

3415
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:43,920
what but what if we lived there

3416
02:15:48,629 --> 02:15:46,880
for in earth time what if we lived there

3417
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:48,639
for five years

3418
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:51,280
and then we experience that does our dna

3419
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:55,119
alter do it does our star the aging of

3420
02:15:59,510 --> 02:15:58,400
our shell cells and and and our aging

3421
02:16:01,589 --> 02:15:59,520
process

3422
02:16:03,750 --> 02:16:01,599
does that then get altered in other

3423
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:03,760
words after that five years we come back

3424
02:16:06,870 --> 02:16:05,840
here to earth and and and we haven't

3425
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:06,880
aged

3426
02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:09,199
uh a minute

3427
02:16:12,709 --> 02:16:10,880
because we spent five years on that

3428
02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:12,719
planet if it's i mean that you could

3429
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:14,560
have a planet where there was a uh

3430
02:16:18,390 --> 02:16:16,480
natural organism that latched on to

3431
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,400
things and automatically reconstructed

3432
02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:20,560
people's dnas that in age you know

3433
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:21,760
there's a lot of weird things you have

3434
02:16:25,750 --> 02:16:23,920
on alien planets that's almost by

3435
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:25,760
definition what the what alien would

3436
02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:27,840
mean by that case but there should be

3437
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:29,679
anything too weird about that planet

3438
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:31,360
most of the time

3439
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:32,800
uh life that you would have from that

3440
02:16:36,070 --> 02:16:34,240
journey would be from the journey you

3441
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:36,080
get to the planet and you've lost so

3442
02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:37,840
much time on your end of things or

3443
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:38,800
gained it depending how you want to look

3444
02:16:43,509 --> 02:16:40,719
at it you know maybe you lost

3445
02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:43,519
two years on a travel time of 20 uh and

3446
02:16:47,669 --> 02:16:45,599
you get that second loss on the way back

3447
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:47,679
to two more years but you probably won't

3448
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:49,439
get even a plant that's got that much

3449
02:16:52,070 --> 02:16:50,960
time dilation from being that close to a

3450
02:16:53,669 --> 02:16:52,080
stall

3451
02:16:55,349 --> 02:16:53,679
again i'd have to run the numbers so we

3452
02:16:56,629 --> 02:16:55,359
take the grain of salt but we might be

3453
02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:56,639
talking about a few minutes over the

3454
02:16:59,910 --> 02:16:58,639
course of a year on the high end of that

3455
02:17:02,150 --> 02:16:59,920
you really have to get close to the

3456
02:17:04,309 --> 02:17:02,160
freak like if i put a planet around a

3457
02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:04,319
black hole one whose accretion disc is a

3458
02:17:07,750 --> 02:17:05,519
lot here which i think was what they did

3459
02:17:09,030 --> 02:17:07,760
with the uh one of their stellar um

3460
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:09,040
although i'd have been quite clear on

3461
02:17:12,549 --> 02:17:10,800
how that wasn't gamma radiation killing

3462
02:17:13,669 --> 02:17:12,559
them but whatever the case is you got a

3463
02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:13,679
plan around the black hole and you could

3464
02:17:16,469 --> 02:17:15,280
have those you know plants can survive

3465
02:17:18,709 --> 02:17:16,479
supernova

3466
02:17:20,469 --> 02:17:18,719
uh if it was very close and it was a

3467
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:20,479
very big black hole

3468
02:17:24,870 --> 02:17:22,800
yes you could potentially have really

3469
02:17:26,309 --> 02:17:24,880
high time dilation around that but

3470
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:26,319
otherwise if it's a living surface

3471
02:17:29,190 --> 02:17:27,280
planet

3472
02:17:31,270 --> 02:17:29,200
not really i think um

3473
02:17:33,270 --> 02:17:31,280
roberto ford's novel dragon's egg which

3474
02:17:35,830 --> 02:17:33,280
is actually set with life on a neutron

3475
02:17:37,750 --> 02:17:35,840
star uh they are the times running so

3476
02:17:39,830 --> 02:17:37,760
slow that they actually can

3477
02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:39,840
experience uh you know less time as

3478
02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:41,439
they're passing by but still faster for

3479
02:17:46,469 --> 02:17:43,920
them in the context of this so tiny and

3480
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:46,479
microscopic that they effectively live

3481
02:17:50,549 --> 02:17:48,559
faster as a war we usually say in this

3482
02:17:53,509 --> 02:17:50,559
kind of context with organisms that by

3483
02:17:54,309 --> 02:17:53,519
default uh their sense of time is linear

3484
02:17:56,709 --> 02:17:54,319
to

3485
02:17:58,629 --> 02:17:56,719
their their size or height or length and

3486
02:18:00,870 --> 02:17:58,639
so you're making organisms 10 times

3487
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:00,880
taller or one tenth is high its

3488
02:18:04,950 --> 02:18:02,479
effective sense of time would be about

3489
02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:04,960
10 or or 10 times more than ours just

3490
02:18:07,429 --> 02:18:06,240
because they can react faster to

3491
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:07,439
everything including how fast their

3492
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:08,800
blade would think

3493
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:10,639
one of the uh

3494
02:18:17,270 --> 02:18:14,240
mission uh statements uh for stern uh

3495
02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:17,280
cern and the large hadron collider

3496
02:18:22,629 --> 02:18:20,240
is uh einstein

3497
02:18:25,990 --> 02:18:22,639
and uh space and time

3498
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:26,000
um and on the on the list now we have

3499
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:28,880
dark matter and dark energy is is there

3500
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:30,880
of course we have black holes

3501
02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:32,000
and

3502
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:34,639
they are trying to

3503
02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:37,439
not only prove relativity but they want

3504
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:39,120
to better

3505
02:18:44,150 --> 02:18:41,200
understand time

3506
02:18:46,950 --> 02:18:44,160
is there is there a danger of

3507
02:18:51,429 --> 02:18:46,960
of discovering dark matter and dark

3508
02:18:53,750 --> 02:18:51,439
energy and and these components

3509
02:18:55,669 --> 02:18:53,760
in in a in a laboratory setting like

3510
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:55,679
that where you're flipping the switch

3511
02:18:59,030 --> 02:18:58,000
and you're waiting to see what could

3512
02:19:02,070 --> 02:18:59,040
happen

3513
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:02,080
is is this a bad idea and and could they

3514
02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:05,120
alter time on cern as we understand it

3515
02:19:08,870 --> 02:19:07,359
on this planet and if they did would we

3516
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:08,880
even know it

3517
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,800
i mean yes no and yes respectively um

3518
02:19:15,750 --> 02:19:14,160
there's always a danger when you're

3519
02:19:17,190 --> 02:19:15,760
trying to find out the physical laws of

3520
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:17,200
the universe and you don't actually know

3521
02:19:20,389 --> 02:19:19,040
them all and you start creating

3522
02:19:23,349 --> 02:19:20,399
circumstances that are meant to check

3523
02:19:25,190 --> 02:19:23,359
your theories uh if your theory is wrong

3524
02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:25,200
uh then you may get a result that you

3525
02:19:27,669 --> 02:19:26,319
weren't expecting that could be a

3526
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:27,679
dangerous one

3527
02:19:30,389 --> 02:19:28,960
there really shouldn't be much of one

3528
02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:30,399
from what they are doing the energies

3529
02:19:33,190 --> 02:19:31,519
involved are

3530
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:33,200
not that far out from where we are

3531
02:19:35,750 --> 02:19:34,479
theoretically so we're not really

3532
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:35,760
expecting them to create a black hole

3533
02:19:38,629 --> 02:19:37,519
it's going to suck the planet up

3534
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:38,639
um

3535
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:40,240
any of you made a little tiny black hole

3536
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:41,760
and it didn't expire from hockey

3537
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:43,920
radiation it would still take millions

3538
02:19:47,429 --> 02:19:45,760
of years to eat the planet i think the

3539
02:19:49,190 --> 02:19:47,439
last calculation for

3540
02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:49,200
micro black hole that was subatomic

3541
02:19:52,550 --> 02:19:50,800
would be the need longer than the earth

3542
02:19:54,389 --> 02:19:52,560
has left to eat the planet

3543
02:19:56,309 --> 02:19:54,399
it's just a very slow process until they

3544
02:19:57,590 --> 02:19:56,319
get bigger um

3545
02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:57,600
you know it's hard to absorb atoms if

3546
02:20:00,070 --> 02:19:58,880
you're smaller than they are and people

3547
02:20:02,309 --> 02:20:00,080
forget that black holes don't really

3548
02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:02,319
suck things in black holes have the same

3549
02:20:05,990 --> 02:20:04,160
gravity that any object has it's just

3550
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:06,000
you get a lot closer than a black hole

3551
02:20:09,510 --> 02:20:07,680
safer to be around close to you than a

3552
02:20:10,389 --> 02:20:09,520
star of the same masses

3553
02:20:11,910 --> 02:20:10,399
um

3554
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:11,920
and it's certainly safer than the cell

3555
02:20:16,309 --> 02:20:14,560
was made from that said uh do i think we

3556
02:20:17,670 --> 02:20:16,319
should be doing the research yeah yeah i

3557
02:20:19,750 --> 02:20:17,680
don't think it's too big of a risk but

3558
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:19,760
yes it is risky and and i

3559
02:20:23,110 --> 02:20:21,359
would before people not just say oh no

3560
02:20:24,469 --> 02:20:23,120
there's no risk to sown at all you're

3561
02:20:25,990 --> 02:20:24,479
playing out the edge of physics in a

3562
02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:26,000
high energy facility like that yeah

3563
02:20:30,389 --> 02:20:28,399
there's always something there but

3564
02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:30,399
tiny you know it's one of those it's the

3565
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:31,920
risk we don't know about the unknown

3566
02:20:35,349 --> 02:20:34,080
unknown kind of thing uh as to whether

3567
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:35,359
or not you if they did something to

3568
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:37,680
change reality we didn't know about it

3569
02:20:42,710 --> 02:20:39,760
well we we don't know about it

3570
02:20:44,469 --> 02:20:42,720
right that's exactly it we wouldn't uh

3571
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:44,479
we wouldn't know

3572
02:20:48,070 --> 02:20:46,080
um and

3573
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:48,080
uh i think that the anti-matter

3574
02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:50,319
experiments and they do they collected

3575
02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:54,640
antimatter put it in a magnetic box

3576
02:21:00,230 --> 02:20:57,520
suspended um but that is messing with

3577
02:21:01,670 --> 02:21:00,240
something that you simply honestly don't

3578
02:21:05,349 --> 02:21:01,680
understand

3579
02:21:07,670 --> 02:21:05,359
and if if uh a black hole micro black

3580
02:21:09,670 --> 02:21:07,680
hole which they have created by the way

3581
02:21:10,870 --> 02:21:09,680
so they go and they do

3582
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:10,880
how do you

3583
02:21:14,710 --> 02:21:13,520
uh run with that high level of

3584
02:21:16,389 --> 02:21:14,720
confidence

3585
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:16,399
that one of these black holes just

3586
02:21:20,150 --> 02:21:18,240
doesn't spin out of control starts

3587
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:20,160
eating the other black on the next thing

3588
02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:21,120
you know

3589
02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:24,000
it is really big and then

3590
02:21:30,230 --> 02:21:27,359
cern is is a pit in the ground

3591
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:30,240
right i mean how do how do we how do we

3592
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:31,600
not

3593
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:33,760
what are the safeguards i i don't think

3594
02:21:37,590 --> 02:21:35,439
they they they've claimed or created a

3595
02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:37,600
black hole yet uh and i don't think

3596
02:21:41,110 --> 02:21:39,439
they're aiming for that per se but let's

3597
02:21:43,030 --> 02:21:41,120
say that did happen you make a black

3598
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:43,040
hole and it emerges to another black

3599
02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:44,800
hole that's actually the most energetic

3600
02:21:48,550 --> 02:21:46,960
events in the universe when you get two

3601
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:48,560
black holes merging together the amount

3602
02:21:52,550 --> 02:21:50,080
of energy released

3603
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:52,560
is more than the entire every star in

3604
02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:54,560
the observable universe emits during

3605
02:21:57,670 --> 02:21:55,920
that same moment and that's how high

3606
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:57,680
that is the funny thing is that might

3607
02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:59,760
not be fatal to be passed around people

3608
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:01,600
tend to forget that the earth has this

3609
02:22:05,990 --> 02:22:03,520
huge gravity exchange with the sun or

3610
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:06,000
the moon constantly we only see a tiny

3611
02:22:10,469 --> 02:22:07,840
little bit of that that ebbs off is like

3612
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:10,479
heat from tidal heating but the amount

3613
02:22:14,870 --> 02:22:12,720
of energy that's in the sun sorry in the

3614
02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:14,880
planet to orbit the sun is about 10 to

3615
02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:17,040
30 joules i don't know how many uh off

3616
02:22:20,309 --> 02:22:18,399
the top i had how many mega tons of

3617
02:22:21,670 --> 02:22:20,319
nuclear bomb there is let's say about a

3618
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:21,680
quadrillion

3619
02:22:25,910 --> 02:22:23,120
megaton nuclear bombs i think that's

3620
02:22:27,670 --> 02:22:25,920
about the right ballpark um

3621
02:22:29,429 --> 02:22:27,680
that is how much energy is for us to be

3622
02:22:32,309 --> 02:22:29,439
this far from the sun if we're suddenly

3623
02:22:34,150 --> 02:22:32,319
one percent close to the sun our

3624
02:22:35,990 --> 02:22:34,160
energy has risen by about one percent of

3625
02:22:37,910 --> 02:22:36,000
that in terms of gravitational potential

3626
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:37,920
and we exchange that with the sun

3627
02:22:41,429 --> 02:22:39,840
well we actually do move a lot more than

3628
02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:41,439
one percent closer to the sun further

3629
02:22:45,510 --> 02:22:43,920
away every time we orbit it we are

3630
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:45,520
actually close to the sun in january

3631
02:22:49,670 --> 02:22:47,920
which surprises people but it's

3632
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:49,680
why it's warmer in the south hemisphere

3633
02:22:53,590 --> 02:22:52,080
so to speak um but that's a huge amount

3634
02:22:54,710 --> 02:22:53,600
of energy being exchanged we barely

3635
02:22:56,469 --> 02:22:54,720
notice it because almost none of it

3636
02:22:59,030 --> 02:22:56,479
actually radiates away as heat energy

3637
02:23:01,750 --> 02:22:59,040
which interacts with our molecules

3638
02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:01,760
um black holes have a lot of energy and

3639
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:05,120
they release a ton when they merge but

3640
02:23:09,910 --> 02:23:07,280
it really isn't the sort of thing that

3641
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:09,920
is is it's this you know if you have a

3642
02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:12,240
black hole that has the mass of one atom

3643
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:15,200
or one gram it still only has that much

3644
02:23:19,510 --> 02:23:18,000
energy in it it's a lot by einstein but

3645
02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:19,520
still very tiny

3646
02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:20,880
you know so if you make a black hole

3647
02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:22,080
that's got

3648
02:23:25,910 --> 02:23:23,840
one gram worth of matter that's still

3649
02:23:27,990 --> 02:23:25,920
only going to be um

3650
02:23:29,030 --> 02:23:28,000
10 to 14 joules of energy in its release

3651
02:23:33,349 --> 02:23:29,040
which is

3652
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:35,429
i was running some of those calculations

3653
02:23:40,790 --> 02:23:37,520
today and looking at terra electron

3654
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:40,800
volts and and and in the conversion and

3655
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:42,800
i was doing it doing it backward and

3656
02:23:47,510 --> 02:23:43,840
forwards

3657
02:23:50,309 --> 02:23:47,520
and then really started to contemplate

3658
02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:50,319
the amount of energy that is fired up at

3659
02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:52,000
the lhc

3660
02:23:58,550 --> 02:23:56,080
it is crazy i mean it is a ginormous

3661
02:24:01,030 --> 02:23:58,560
amount of energy and then getting these

3662
02:24:01,990 --> 02:24:01,040
protons moving in opposite directions

3663
02:24:05,030 --> 02:24:02,000
and then

3664
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:05,040
colliding which is its job

3665
02:24:09,590 --> 02:24:07,120
uh not knowing what the results are

3666
02:24:11,110 --> 02:24:09,600
going to be and just kicking back to see

3667
02:24:13,670 --> 02:24:11,120
what the action is

3668
02:24:16,790 --> 02:24:13,680
is there a possibility with these kind

3669
02:24:19,830 --> 02:24:16,800
of collisions that you could open up a

3670
02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:19,840
portal that you could connect a two

3671
02:24:24,070 --> 02:24:22,880
dimensions or two multiverses

3672
02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:24,080
and allow

3673
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:27,280
things entities life to pass through in

3674
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:29,040
in both directions

3675
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:31,600
that would be cool

3676
02:24:36,070 --> 02:24:34,000
possibly fatal but still cool i mean yes

3677
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:36,080
yes there is a possibility you know

3678
02:24:39,510 --> 02:24:37,359
again that's that we're playing around

3679
02:24:40,630 --> 02:24:39,520
the edge of science thing i i'd take a

3680
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:40,640
moment to say

3681
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:42,720
that thing uses up so much energy that

3682
02:24:45,910 --> 02:24:44,080
they have to plot what time of year

3683
02:24:47,270 --> 02:24:45,920
they're turning it on so that everyone

3684
02:24:49,830 --> 02:24:47,280
can run their air conditioners in the

3685
02:24:53,510 --> 02:24:49,840
country it goes through um you know it

3686
02:24:55,910 --> 02:24:53,520
uses a lot of energy a lot a lot a lot

3687
02:24:58,309 --> 02:24:55,920
and and we're trying to take particles

3688
02:25:00,469 --> 02:24:58,319
run them through miles and miles of

3689
02:25:02,870 --> 02:25:00,479
distance and then hit each other with

3690
02:25:04,630 --> 02:25:02,880
them and the kind of precision that you

3691
02:25:06,309 --> 02:25:04,640
need for that it's it's like

3692
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:06,319
not playing dots it'd be like trying to

3693
02:25:11,110 --> 02:25:09,200
throw a dart and keep it on track or

3694
02:25:13,429 --> 02:25:11,120
circle the planet because it has just

3695
02:25:15,270 --> 02:25:13,439
enough speed and so it hit your hand

3696
02:25:16,950 --> 02:25:15,280
after you threw it and just go like that

3697
02:25:19,349 --> 02:25:16,960
have it come back and hit that location

3698
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:19,359
after the whole planet and without

3699
02:25:22,790 --> 02:25:20,560
having any way to guide it's not a

3700
02:25:24,710 --> 02:25:22,800
missile or rocket it was your throw that

3701
02:25:25,910 --> 02:25:24,720
was that accurate that's what we have to

3702
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:25,920
do with that thing

3703
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:26,960
it is

3704
02:25:31,510 --> 02:25:29,200
hugely expensive for a reason everybody

3705
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:31,520
gets some results done nonetheless as

3706
02:25:35,270 --> 02:25:33,359
huge as the energies are involved in

3707
02:25:36,790 --> 02:25:35,280
that almost all of it doesn't actually

3708
02:25:40,070 --> 02:25:36,800
end up in the collision

3709
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:40,080
because we miss so much we throw tons of

3710
02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:41,920
particles down range and the other

3711
02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:44,000
direction and and we try to have them

3712
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:46,560
hit a target and most of them miss you

3713
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:48,560
know and what we get out of that though

3714
02:25:51,590 --> 02:25:50,000
is is still

3715
02:25:52,950 --> 02:25:51,600
you know the energy is involved people

3716
02:25:54,550 --> 02:25:52,960
say well can you actually see what it's

3717
02:25:56,469 --> 02:25:54,560
like when you when you move something up

3718
02:25:58,309 --> 02:25:56,479
this allegedly really close to light

3719
02:25:59,990 --> 02:25:58,319
speed it's like oh yeah yeah we've been

3720
02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:00,000
doing that for a long time every every

3721
02:26:04,110 --> 02:26:01,760
lab that you uh have doing particle

3722
02:26:07,429 --> 02:26:04,120
plyos they run these things at like

3723
02:26:09,190 --> 02:26:07,439
0.99999 c or much higher and you can

3724
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:09,200
absolutely see the relativistic facts we

3725
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:11,040
have particles that only live

3726
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:12,960
for fractions of time so small they

3727
02:26:16,790 --> 02:26:14,960
wouldn't be able to move at light speed

3728
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:16,800
to the edge of this chamber

3729
02:26:20,230 --> 02:26:18,720
to then they would die before they reach

3730
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:20,240
that even though they're moving at light

3731
02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:22,800
speed or very close to it but because

3732
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:24,560
they're so relativistically shifted by

3733
02:26:29,750 --> 02:26:26,800
their own raw energy often millions of

3734
02:26:31,990 --> 02:26:29,760
times more than their mass energy they

3735
02:26:32,870 --> 02:26:32,000
live millions of times longer than they

3736
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:32,880
should

3737
02:26:37,510 --> 02:26:35,840
uh in our subjective view and manage to

3738
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:37,520
reach the edge of that detector same

3739
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:39,200
thing for muons near atmosphere when

3740
02:26:43,510 --> 02:26:41,120
they're made that gets the ground only

3741
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:43,520
because they are moving so volatilistic

3742
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:46,319
that they live longer than they should

3743
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:48,800
now is there a danger we were talking

3744
02:26:53,030 --> 02:26:51,120
about this earlier um and i think it's a

3745
02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:53,040
very important question

3746
02:26:57,750 --> 02:26:55,920
um we we know how many particles are in

3747
02:27:00,230 --> 02:26:57,760
the universe we've we've run the number

3748
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:00,240
i know it's a crazy thought that that we

3749
02:27:06,630 --> 02:27:04,080
actually have a pretty firm grasp on

3750
02:27:10,550 --> 02:27:06,640
on the mass of the universe but if we

3751
02:27:11,910 --> 02:27:10,560
destroy a particle with the large hadron

3752
02:27:14,389 --> 02:27:11,920
collider

3753
02:27:16,790 --> 02:27:14,399
and and take it apart are we upsetting

3754
02:27:20,230 --> 02:27:16,800
the balance of the universe and are we

3755
02:27:23,030 --> 02:27:20,240
in danger of if we disintegrate in adam

3756
02:27:25,670 --> 02:27:23,040
um is it possible to

3757
02:27:29,030 --> 02:27:25,680
to bump start a big bang right there on

3758
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:29,040
the border of france and switzerland

3759
02:27:32,389 --> 02:27:30,640
that depends on what we mean by destroy

3760
02:27:34,870 --> 02:27:32,399
or disintegrate you know if i born a

3761
02:27:37,270 --> 02:27:34,880
piece of paper i've destroyed it if i

3762
02:27:39,110 --> 02:27:37,280
fuse an atom uh you know two hydrogen

3763
02:27:41,110 --> 02:27:39,120
particles together make a deuterium

3764
02:27:42,950 --> 02:27:41,120
isotope uh some of that energy gets

3765
02:27:44,710 --> 02:27:42,960
released uh and you know now all of a

3766
02:27:47,349 --> 02:27:44,720
sudden i've got uh proton and neutron

3767
02:27:49,110 --> 02:27:47,359
said two protons uh did those quarks get

3768
02:27:51,270 --> 02:27:49,120
destroyed did those

3769
02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:51,280
trillions upon trillions of c corks in

3770
02:27:55,270 --> 02:27:53,200
which the real ones drift around and so

3771
02:27:57,510 --> 02:27:55,280
sorry not the sequel surveillance quarks

3772
02:27:58,950 --> 02:27:57,520
did those get destroyed and doesn't

3773
02:28:00,870 --> 02:27:58,960
matter and the question is how long does

3774
02:28:02,389 --> 02:28:00,880
it even last most particles as best you

3775
02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:02,399
can tell all the vulture ones so to

3776
02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:04,880
speak they pop in and out of resistance

3777
02:28:08,950 --> 02:28:07,520
constantly and this big foam that

3778
02:28:11,510 --> 02:28:08,960
that we talked about all the time and

3779
02:28:12,710 --> 02:28:11,520
also like trying to find the bose of the

3780
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:12,720
higgs boson

3781
02:28:16,790 --> 02:28:14,319
these things pop in and out of existence

3782
02:28:19,030 --> 02:28:16,800
constantly and they're being destroyed

3783
02:28:20,870 --> 02:28:19,040
as though they never existed because

3784
02:28:24,070 --> 02:28:20,880
from a certain perspective they never

3785
02:28:24,870 --> 02:28:24,080
existed uh in a really weird quantum e

3786
02:28:26,550 --> 02:28:24,880
sense

3787
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:26,560
and uh

3788
02:28:30,070 --> 02:28:28,560
if they didn't exist if one of these

3789
02:28:32,630 --> 02:28:30,080
things was if i were to reach back in

3790
02:28:34,309 --> 02:28:32,640
time and remove just one atom from

3791
02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:34,319
existence all of its energy all its

3792
02:28:38,230 --> 02:28:36,960
potential all of its future realities

3793
02:28:39,750 --> 02:28:38,240
those are gone

3794
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:39,760
and the universe has changed because of

3795
02:28:42,469 --> 02:28:40,800
that

3796
02:28:44,309 --> 02:28:42,479
but i'll be in a very tiny way and of

3797
02:28:45,990 --> 02:28:44,319
course the folks who live a million

3798
02:28:48,550 --> 02:28:46,000
light years away might not be any way

3799
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:48,560
affected by that uh in a very sincere

3800
02:28:52,790 --> 02:28:50,560
and genuine way until the light or

3801
02:28:54,389 --> 02:28:52,800
causality reached them because the speed

3802
02:28:56,230 --> 02:28:54,399
of light really isn't the speed of light

3803
02:28:59,030 --> 02:28:56,240
it's the speed of causality of cause and

3804
02:29:03,190 --> 02:29:01,670
locally it could be a very big deal

3805
02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:03,200
yeah and of course that's going to

3806
02:29:06,950 --> 02:29:05,120
spread and of course the big thing on

3807
02:29:09,590 --> 02:29:06,960
all this the big takeaway i'd say is

3808
02:29:10,790 --> 02:29:09,600
that we to this day almost a century

3809
02:29:12,630 --> 02:29:10,800
after we started playing around with

3810
02:29:15,030 --> 02:29:12,640
quantum still don't actually have a

3811
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:15,040
theory of how we unify quantum with

3812
02:29:19,429 --> 02:29:17,680
general relativity and so we don't have

3813
02:29:21,270 --> 02:29:19,439
quantum gravity and

3814
02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:21,280
everything involving black holes

3815
02:29:25,349 --> 02:29:23,439
involving time travel these things are

3816
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:25,359
all very dependent on that theory of

3817
02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:27,680
quantum gravity and

3818
02:29:31,030 --> 02:29:29,200
the best way to resource that is that

3819
02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:31,040
that gigantic hadron collider and a few

3820
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:33,040
of its potential kindred will eventually

3821
02:29:35,830 --> 02:29:34,080
build so

3822
02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:35,840
that's the let's say that's the risk

3823
02:29:39,429 --> 02:29:37,680
involved it is very minimal i i would

3824
02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:39,439
honestly say i do not

3825
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:40,800
for a moment believe it's likely to

3826
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:43,200
actually cause any problems for us

3827
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:45,359
uh but you know you can never really say

3828
02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:47,200
no for sure we are trying to figure out

3829
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:48,000
what

3830
02:29:54,870 --> 02:29:53,760
not really honest at the same time

3831
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,880
there's very little reason to get a

3832
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:56,800
problem if we want to move forward and

3833
02:29:59,590 --> 02:29:58,080
discover these things though if we want

3834
02:30:01,670 --> 02:29:59,600
to know how this stuff works and see

3835
02:30:03,670 --> 02:30:01,680
about these new possible different

3836
02:30:04,389 --> 02:30:03,680
reality breaking rules that might be in

3837
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:04,399
play

3838
02:30:08,630 --> 02:30:06,160
we are going to have to take some risks

3839
02:30:10,389 --> 02:30:08,640
this is life this is this is what we do

3840
02:30:13,110 --> 02:30:10,399
like humanity do not get where we are

3841
02:30:15,349 --> 02:30:13,120
now by playing it safe cautious right

3842
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:15,359
cautious not reckless but you often

3843
02:30:19,910 --> 02:30:16,960
happen reckless be sure

3844
02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:19,920
cautious not reckless but we do not play

3845
02:30:23,830 --> 02:30:21,040
it safe

3846
02:30:24,870 --> 02:30:23,840
do you believe uh 30 seconds quick

3847
02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:24,880
question

3848
02:30:29,349 --> 02:30:27,520
that you have 10 000 scientists involved

3849
02:30:30,550 --> 02:30:29,359
with cern you've got 100 countries

3850
02:30:32,790 --> 02:30:30,560
you've got

3851
02:30:35,670 --> 02:30:32,800
hundreds of universities right it's a

3852
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:35,680
crazy amount of uh intellectual brain

3853
02:30:39,670 --> 02:30:37,760
power involved there but do you believe

3854
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:39,680
that there could be

3855
02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:42,160
a group of very rich

3856
02:30:47,270 --> 02:30:44,800
ceos and corporation owners and elites

3857
02:30:51,030 --> 02:30:47,280
going okay we got to figure out this

3858
02:30:53,830 --> 02:30:51,040
time travel stuff and and when we do

3859
02:30:56,230 --> 02:30:53,840
we keep it to ourselves

3860
02:30:59,030 --> 02:30:56,240
is is that a possibility

3861
02:31:00,790 --> 02:30:59,040
yes i mean i mean

3862
02:31:02,469 --> 02:31:00,800
being rich does not necessarily mean one

3863
02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:02,479
is wise in all things and i i've heard

3864
02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:04,960
of many a very wealthy person building a

3865
02:31:07,590 --> 02:31:06,720
a doomsday bunker that seems like a

3866
02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:07,600
really good idea because they're

3867
02:31:10,950 --> 02:31:09,280
expecting the water to come to an end

3868
02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:10,960
and yet ignoring things that would

3869
02:31:14,950 --> 02:31:13,120
basically make that bunker useless for

3870
02:31:17,429 --> 02:31:14,960
them even though they have spent so much

3871
02:31:18,790 --> 02:31:17,439
money on it um there are it is not

3872
02:31:21,030 --> 02:31:18,800
unusual for people with a lot of

3873
02:31:22,870 --> 02:31:21,040
resources and power to do incredibly

3874
02:31:24,469 --> 02:31:22,880
stupid things and i can think of a lot

3875
02:31:26,710 --> 02:31:24,479
of stupid things than getting your ads

3876
02:31:28,950 --> 02:31:26,720
on a time travel device and keeping it

3877
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:28,960
for yourself so you know that's

3878
02:31:32,389 --> 02:31:30,720
basically what doctor who does this is

3879
02:31:33,990 --> 02:31:32,399
folks they have this and they don't

3880
02:31:35,349 --> 02:31:34,000
share that technology around

3881
02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:35,359
theoretically for the good of everybody

3882
02:31:39,670 --> 02:31:37,359
else but in point of fact they've got it

3883
02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:39,680
right doctor who or whoever when i have

3884
02:31:43,190 --> 02:31:41,120
this time machine or you know jeff

3885
02:31:44,790 --> 02:31:43,200
bezos's war

3886
02:31:45,990 --> 02:31:44,800
would i share that technology if i had

3887
02:31:47,910 --> 02:31:46,000
it

3888
02:31:49,750 --> 02:31:47,920
no i don't think i would if i had a time

3889
02:31:51,670 --> 02:31:49,760
travel machine i probably would go back

3890
02:31:53,910 --> 02:31:51,680
win some lotteries and keep that thing

3891
02:31:56,950 --> 02:31:53,920
to myself yeah you don't you don't want

3892
02:31:58,870 --> 02:31:56,960
russia uh with uh

3893
02:32:00,309 --> 02:31:58,880
i can think of bad things i might do

3894
02:32:02,790 --> 02:32:00,319
with that and i i think of myself as a

3895
02:32:04,389 --> 02:32:02,800
reasonably ethical person

3896
02:32:06,150 --> 02:32:04,399
let's talk about that when we come back

3897
02:32:08,150 --> 02:32:06,160
we're gonna go to overtime

3898
02:32:11,670 --> 02:32:08,160
and when i come back we're gonna talk

3899
02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:11,680
about the science of back to the future

3900
02:32:15,190 --> 02:32:14,240
one two and three

3901
02:32:18,309 --> 02:32:15,200
and

3902
02:32:20,309 --> 02:32:18,319
is it possible one but what would you do

3903
02:32:21,990 --> 02:32:20,319
if you did have that technology we'll do

3904
02:32:23,670 --> 02:32:22,000
all of that when we come back our guest

3905
02:32:26,970 --> 02:32:23,680
tonight isaac arthur

3906
02:32:35,190 --> 02:32:26,980
stay with us this is fade to black

3907
02:32:39,840 --> 02:32:38,550
[Music]

3908
02:32:47,830 --> 02:32:39,850
[Applause]

3909
02:32:51,510 --> 02:32:49,990
you're listening to jimmy church and

3910
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fade to black

3911
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hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3912
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you are listening to my boy jimmy church

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despite popular opinion

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4007
02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:38,240
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4008
02:37:42,790 --> 02:37:40,560
am your host jimmy church

4009
02:37:46,950 --> 02:37:42,800
heading into overtime with isaac arthur

4010
02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:46,960
tonight and isaac and i we knew uh

4011
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:49,520
there's a time trap we've just scratched

4012
02:37:54,630 --> 02:37:52,240
the surface of it tonight and i we

4013
02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:54,640
didn't jump into the butterfly effect uh

4014
02:38:00,630 --> 02:37:57,760
we didn't get into other aspects of this

4015
02:38:03,349 --> 02:38:00,640
didn't talk about john teeter

4016
02:38:06,309 --> 02:38:03,359
and his gravity clock which i've always

4017
02:38:08,469 --> 02:38:06,319
found very very compelling um and the

4018
02:38:10,870 --> 02:38:08,479
fact that john teeter disappeared and

4019
02:38:12,309 --> 02:38:10,880
never came back and was he really a real

4020
02:38:13,910 --> 02:38:12,319
time traveler

4021
02:38:15,670 --> 02:38:13,920
and we can save all of that for another

4022
02:38:18,230 --> 02:38:15,680
show but i do want to

4023
02:38:21,349 --> 02:38:18,240
uh uh talk have a little bit of fun and

4024
02:38:24,389 --> 02:38:21,359
loosen it up a little bit um and and and

4025
02:38:26,150 --> 02:38:24,399
talk about back to the future um

4026
02:38:28,790 --> 02:38:26,160
that's the future for you

4027
02:38:31,190 --> 02:38:28,800
uh it was great i saw it uh before back

4028
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:31,200
to the future one i i i got the

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02:38:34,550 --> 02:38:32,800
videotape

4030
02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:34,560
it was good

4031
02:38:38,710 --> 02:38:35,760
it was great

4032
02:38:39,830 --> 02:38:38,720
and and here but but here's here's the

4033
02:38:41,429 --> 02:38:39,840
thing

4034
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:41,439
um

4035
02:38:45,750 --> 02:38:44,479
it seems that

4036
02:38:48,790 --> 02:38:45,760
it's funny

4037
02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:48,800
right it's it's scientific at points uh

4038
02:38:52,950 --> 02:38:51,520
too as well but it certainly addresses

4039
02:38:54,230 --> 02:38:52,960
the paradox

4040
02:38:57,110 --> 02:38:54,240
in that

4041
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:57,120
the movies uh and by the way back to the

4042
02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:00,080
future threes it it might be better than

4043
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:03,280
one very rare hollywood phenomena that

4044
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:05,600
uh a three-part

4045
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:08,800
three-part series of movies uh exceeded

4046
02:39:13,110 --> 02:39:11,200
the previous movie yeah very few movie

4047
02:39:16,469 --> 02:39:13,120
trilogies do good star wars pulled it

4048
02:39:18,309 --> 02:39:16,479
off for the forced trilogy at least so

4049
02:39:20,230 --> 02:39:18,319
you're right about that

4050
02:39:22,950 --> 02:39:20,240
i i think you're right uh it built on

4051
02:39:26,150 --> 02:39:22,960
that very rare um that back to the

4052
02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:26,160
future was was so well done but

4053
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:29,040
it just turned out to be

4054
02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:31,040
you have to go back and fix what you

4055
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:33,520
thought you fixed right and that's what

4056
02:39:36,710 --> 02:39:35,120
the series is about

4057
02:39:41,990 --> 02:39:36,720
you

4058
02:39:44,710 --> 02:39:42,000
anything is going to be not only a

4059
02:39:47,590 --> 02:39:44,720
series of paradoxes but you're never

4060
02:39:50,830 --> 02:39:47,600
going to improve anything you're going

4061
02:39:52,630 --> 02:39:50,840
to come back home and go oh

4062
02:39:55,110 --> 02:39:52,640
crap right

4063
02:39:56,870 --> 02:39:55,120
and then have to turn around and try to

4064
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:56,880
fix and then you're not going to fix

4065
02:40:00,550 --> 02:39:58,479
that either the key thing you can never

4066
02:40:01,910 --> 02:40:00,560
go back home again with time travel you

4067
02:40:04,230 --> 02:40:01,920
could go to an alternate universe that

4068
02:40:05,670 --> 02:40:04,240
was identical in every way for you but

4069
02:40:07,990 --> 02:40:05,680
if your goal was to go back in time and

4070
02:40:09,590 --> 02:40:08,000
fix a problem you didn't actually fix it

4071
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:09,600
you just ended up in a universe that it

4072
02:40:12,710 --> 02:40:10,880
was fixed in

4073
02:40:15,030 --> 02:40:12,720
you know the one that you left is still

4074
02:40:17,750 --> 02:40:15,040
there if you go back in time and kill

4075
02:40:19,510 --> 02:40:17,760
john connor in an alternate timeline if

4076
02:40:21,830 --> 02:40:19,520
there are alternate timelines that's the

4077
02:40:22,950 --> 02:40:21,840
one that's going to persist and the one

4078
02:40:24,710 --> 02:40:22,960
that you were in

4079
02:40:26,389 --> 02:40:24,720
it just has you in you within going back

4080
02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:26,399
in time to kill the guy he still didn't

4081
02:40:30,950 --> 02:40:28,319
die that altered timelines where that

4082
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:31,910
at least

4083
02:40:37,030 --> 02:40:34,000
is that the only way to get rid of uh

4084
02:40:38,630 --> 02:40:37,040
the paradox paradoxes well no no there

4085
02:40:40,630 --> 02:40:38,640
are there's a lot of ways that we can

4086
02:40:42,230 --> 02:40:40,640
approach it on that but the assumption

4087
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:42,240
is usually if there's a paradox a

4088
02:40:46,469 --> 02:40:44,560
paradox can't exist i don't hold it

4089
02:40:47,670 --> 02:40:46,479
myself i i don't think

4090
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:47,680
i feel like the kind of the natural

4091
02:40:51,349 --> 02:40:49,680
reality is going to require paradoxes be

4092
02:40:53,590 --> 02:40:51,359
possible occasionally which is

4093
02:40:55,030 --> 02:40:53,600
paradoxical itself but we usually hold

4094
02:40:57,429 --> 02:40:55,040
that a paradox is something that's not

4095
02:40:58,790 --> 02:40:57,439
going to happen so if there's a paradox

4096
02:41:00,870 --> 02:40:58,800
it didn't happen

4097
02:41:02,790 --> 02:41:00,880
one of the examples we have is the nokia

4098
02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:02,800
self self-consistency principle which

4099
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:04,319
kind of holds the idea that if you went

4100
02:41:08,710 --> 02:41:06,640
back in time and changed something

4101
02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:08,720
you can't actually have the paradox so

4102
02:41:11,670 --> 02:41:09,760
something's going to happen to make you

4103
02:41:13,349 --> 02:41:11,680
go back and do that and it could be

4104
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:13,359
something as strange as only the

4105
02:41:16,150 --> 02:41:14,560
realities

4106
02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:16,160
persist where you went and did that

4107
02:41:19,269 --> 02:41:17,760
right you have all these branching

4108
02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:19,279
timelines off of when you went back and

4109
02:41:24,550 --> 02:41:21,760
changed that time and only the ones that

4110
02:41:26,469 --> 02:41:24,560
actually lead back in some way to going

4111
02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:26,479
back in time to do that action

4112
02:41:29,750 --> 02:41:27,760
can actually persist the others just

4113
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:29,760
kind of pop out as quantum foam they

4114
02:41:33,349 --> 02:41:30,880
they're hazely they are there and

4115
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:33,359
they're gone right so i go back in time

4116
02:41:37,750 --> 02:41:35,600
to save my grandfather from dying

4117
02:41:39,349 --> 02:41:37,760
and i i have one where i he stood out

4118
02:41:41,190 --> 02:41:39,359
anyway from cancer years back and i went

4119
02:41:43,269 --> 02:41:41,200
back then to save him or i have one

4120
02:41:46,230 --> 02:41:43,279
where i did save him

4121
02:41:48,550 --> 02:41:46,240
but i went crazy and this and thought he

4122
02:41:49,910 --> 02:41:48,560
died even though he was still alive and

4123
02:41:52,070 --> 02:41:49,920
that's what made me travel back in time

4124
02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:52,080
to save him you that would be a reality

4125
02:41:55,510 --> 02:41:54,080
that would still be allowed to exist

4126
02:41:57,990 --> 02:41:55,520
because it ends will be coming back the

4127
02:42:01,190 --> 02:41:58,000
same point but how do you introduce the

4128
02:42:02,550 --> 02:42:01,200
loop you have to start it somehow

4129
02:42:04,150 --> 02:42:02,560
there's other ones you might have like

4130
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:04,160
inertia in some case like you go in a

4131
02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:05,600
loop and much like a tire spinning

4132
02:42:09,590 --> 02:42:07,840
around eventually the tire stops so if

4133
02:42:11,990 --> 02:42:09,600
it's wobbly it could get off hill engine

4134
02:42:13,110 --> 02:42:12,000
break off right these there are so many

4135
02:42:14,309 --> 02:42:13,120
different ways that we can look at them

4136
02:42:17,990 --> 02:42:14,319
they're all

4137
02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:18,000
behind you know some work out well as

4138
02:42:22,630 --> 02:42:20,240
mathematical theories but the reality is

4139
02:42:24,150 --> 02:42:22,640
we don't have any idea how this really

4140
02:42:26,309 --> 02:42:24,160
would work we can just look at an

4141
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:26,319
example of how it would work using

4142
02:42:32,870 --> 02:42:28,800
certain mechanics to say well if x were

4143
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:32,880
the case then y you know z etc so we had

4144
02:42:37,190 --> 02:42:34,560
the branching timelines one with the

4145
02:42:38,630 --> 02:42:37,200
closed loops one and we shouldn't assume

4146
02:42:40,790 --> 02:42:38,640
like we say well i go back and it

4147
02:42:42,950 --> 02:42:40,800
becomes one single loop like a piece of

4148
02:42:44,550 --> 02:42:42,960
yarn that's just been loosened up there

4149
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:44,560
and put in a little loop think of it

4150
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:46,720
instead possibly as going to that same

4151
02:42:50,630 --> 02:42:48,720
intersecting point where that yarn loop

4152
02:42:52,790 --> 02:42:50,640
intersects with itself but then it could

4153
02:42:54,230 --> 02:42:52,800
do multiple loops in the same place all

4154
02:42:55,910 --> 02:42:54,240
looping back on that same pulse just

4155
02:42:58,630 --> 02:42:55,920
like you were the piece of yawn it's

4156
02:43:00,550 --> 02:42:58,640
still one timeline for you it just

4157
02:43:02,710 --> 02:43:00,560
happens to keep running back around the

4158
02:43:05,590 --> 02:43:02,720
year 2100 for some reason you event time

4159
02:43:08,870 --> 02:43:05,600
machine 2100 jump back in time to 2080

4160
02:43:10,469 --> 02:43:08,880
and you keep circling until you get an

4161
02:43:12,469 --> 02:43:10,479
actual reality that causes you to do

4162
02:43:14,230 --> 02:43:12,479
that first event again for real so it

4163
02:43:16,389 --> 02:43:14,240
isn't necessarily one timeline one loop

4164
02:43:18,230 --> 02:43:16,399
it could be several next to each other

4165
02:43:20,150 --> 02:43:18,240
and that's another possible model of

4166
02:43:21,349 --> 02:43:20,160
time travel on top of the one of course

4167
02:43:23,510 --> 02:43:21,359
we just went

4168
02:43:26,230 --> 02:43:23,520
and went off to the side right and would

4169
02:43:27,110 --> 02:43:26,240
you experience it uh

4170
02:43:28,469 --> 02:43:27,120
different

4171
02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:28,479
in other words

4172
02:43:34,550 --> 02:43:30,640
would you know damn man

4173
02:43:36,550 --> 02:43:34,560
80 times now and i've got to step off of

4174
02:43:38,230 --> 02:43:36,560
of this wheel i've i've got to figure

4175
02:43:39,830 --> 02:43:38,240
out a way well i mean would you even

4176
02:43:41,429 --> 02:43:39,840
wear the wins you might realize there's

4177
02:43:43,510 --> 02:43:41,439
an ever you know the little bits of

4178
02:43:45,510 --> 02:43:43,520
shift in paradox are moving you

4179
02:43:47,510 --> 02:43:45,520
converging you towards eventually

4180
02:43:50,230 --> 02:43:47,520
hitting a reality that caused you to

4181
02:43:51,750 --> 02:43:50,240
start that first event again or uh to

4182
02:43:54,389 --> 02:43:51,760
continue the timeline the groundhog day

4183
02:43:56,070 --> 02:43:54,399
of venezuela to get out of that

4184
02:43:57,590 --> 02:43:56,080
um and then again you gotta say what's

4185
02:44:00,070 --> 02:43:57,600
actually going on the outside universe

4186
02:44:01,590 --> 02:44:00,080
so this is happening right uh we don't

4187
02:44:03,269 --> 02:44:01,600
know that time isn't continuing to flow

4188
02:44:04,950 --> 02:44:03,279
elsewhere just fine they played around

4189
02:44:06,790 --> 02:44:04,960
that idea in stargate episode two one of

4190
02:44:09,429 --> 02:44:06,800
the best ones that had the

4191
02:44:11,110 --> 02:44:09,439
bowl of fruit loops in it i can't wait

4192
02:44:12,469 --> 02:44:11,120
right now but they finish up a day

4193
02:44:14,389 --> 02:44:12,479
that's been groundhog day and over and

4194
02:44:16,389 --> 02:44:14,399
over again and they find out that uh the

4195
02:44:17,750 --> 02:44:16,399
rest of the universe has seen like ben

4196
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:17,760
you had three months go by in the

4197
02:44:21,910 --> 02:44:18,880
meantime i wasn't able to get in touch

4198
02:44:24,309 --> 02:44:21,920
with anybody um but uh you know we don't

4199
02:44:26,230 --> 02:44:24,319
know how that would work but time

4200
02:44:27,110 --> 02:44:26,240
paradoxes that are happening here on

4201
02:44:29,269 --> 02:44:27,120
earth

4202
02:44:30,710 --> 02:44:29,279
wouldn't have radiated out to some place

4203
02:44:33,190 --> 02:44:30,720
further away from the universe from us

4204
02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:33,200
that it takes time to get there too we

4205
02:44:36,550 --> 02:44:35,040
think you know it is

4206
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:36,560
one of those ones where there are so

4207
02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:38,080
many different ways it could walk and

4208
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:39,520
say well that's not how time travel

4209
02:44:42,550 --> 02:44:41,040
works and that and i know people tend to

4210
02:44:44,389 --> 02:44:42,560
do that i was like well the science says

4211
02:44:45,590 --> 02:44:44,399
that's not how time travel works no it

4212
02:44:47,269 --> 02:44:45,600
doesn't the science doesn't tell us

4213
02:44:49,990 --> 02:44:47,279
anything about how it does work it just

4214
02:44:52,230 --> 02:44:50,000
tells us if x y or z theory is true i

4215
02:44:54,870 --> 02:44:52,240
wish there are many here's how it might

4216
02:44:56,349 --> 02:44:54,880
work so a lot i mean tv and movies mess

4217
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:56,359
it up really bad in terms of

4218
02:45:00,469 --> 02:44:58,800
inconsistencies but there's no core

4219
02:45:02,710 --> 02:45:00,479
theory of how time travel really works

4220
02:45:04,150 --> 02:45:02,720
that's been proven

4221
02:45:07,670 --> 02:45:04,160
the uh

4222
02:45:08,950 --> 02:45:07,680
the the other part of this which um

4223
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:08,960
okay so

4224
02:45:12,830 --> 02:45:11,760
let's let's look at it like this

4225
02:45:21,190 --> 02:45:12,840
if

4226
02:45:25,269 --> 02:45:21,200
the technology is arrived at

4227
02:45:28,070 --> 02:45:25,279
it would be like instantly weaponized

4228
02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:28,080
but i don't think it would be weaponized

4229
02:45:34,070 --> 02:45:30,560
in the way that people think in other

4230
02:45:36,550 --> 02:45:34,080
words uh russia gets it and they want to

4231
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:36,560
mess with us so they they go back to

4232
02:45:40,070 --> 02:45:38,080
1945

4233
02:45:43,349 --> 02:45:40,080
and kill oppenheimer we don't have the

4234
02:45:46,070 --> 02:45:43,359
bomb they do right all right but no i i

4235
02:45:48,150 --> 02:45:46,080
don't think that's how it would go down

4236
02:45:50,309 --> 02:45:48,160
i think i should way more convoluted and

4237
02:45:52,070 --> 02:45:50,319
crazy to that it just

4238
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:52,080
well i think i think russia would just

4239
02:45:57,910 --> 02:45:55,520
go back uh to 1776 and

4240
02:46:00,389 --> 02:45:57,920
and and kill george washington and the

4241
02:46:02,230 --> 02:46:00,399
united states doesn't exist at all

4242
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:02,240
well what about a future form of

4243
02:46:05,990 --> 02:46:04,000
whatever the civilization is that

4244
02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:06,000
decides to deal with that situation from

4245
02:46:09,750 --> 02:46:07,920
10 000 years in the future there's

4246
02:46:11,429 --> 02:46:09,760
really only two places depending on how

4247
02:46:13,190 --> 02:46:11,439
you want to look at it that are safe for

4248
02:46:14,309 --> 02:46:13,200
a time traveler the very beginning of

4249
02:46:16,230 --> 02:46:14,319
the universe and the very end of the

4250
02:46:17,349 --> 02:46:16,240
universe so the heat death universe

4251
02:46:18,870 --> 02:46:17,359
everything is basically on our way to

4252
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:18,880
statistical noise or you couldn't even

4253
02:46:22,150 --> 02:46:20,479
tell about the past so

4254
02:46:23,429 --> 02:46:22,160
you you know you could have people from

4255
02:46:25,990 --> 02:46:23,439
very near the end of the universe that

4256
02:46:27,269 --> 02:46:26,000
were deciding to interact back in time

4257
02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:27,279
to make sure you didn't screw with

4258
02:46:30,710 --> 02:46:29,200
faking to where they were at or vice

4259
02:46:31,990 --> 02:46:30,720
versa that you did

4260
02:46:34,790 --> 02:46:32,000
i think steven baxter played with that

4261
02:46:35,990 --> 02:46:34,800
idea in one of his novels um

4262
02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:36,000
it's not gonna be something as simple as

4263
02:46:40,469 --> 02:46:38,080
let's go back in time and kill hitler um

4264
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:40,479
he seems to be his own sub genre of

4265
02:46:44,150 --> 02:46:42,479
sci-fi for time travel but you know

4266
02:46:46,710 --> 02:46:44,160
that's not the same for like i want to

4267
02:46:47,910 --> 02:46:46,720
go back in time and save my wife for you

4268
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:47,920
know etc

4269
02:46:50,630 --> 02:46:49,600
um that's not how that sort of thing is

4270
02:46:52,550 --> 02:46:50,640
really going to work out because you're

4271
02:46:55,190 --> 02:46:52,560
not going to succeed in keeping that

4272
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:55,200
secret there will be a timeline if you

4273
02:46:59,510 --> 02:46:57,120
have the branching timelines option at

4274
02:47:01,349 --> 02:46:59,520
least right where you didn't succeed in

4275
02:47:04,150 --> 02:47:01,359
keeping it secret and now someone in the

4276
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:04,160
year 2200 has that technology too and at

4277
02:47:07,590 --> 02:47:05,520
least one of those rallies that go back

4278
02:47:09,349 --> 02:47:07,600
in time and give it to everybody you

4279
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:09,359
know when is time travel actually

4280
02:47:13,190 --> 02:47:11,600
invented as douglas adams said it was

4281
02:47:15,990 --> 02:47:13,200
invented every time and place the

4282
02:47:17,910 --> 02:47:16,000
universe simultaneously and that uh once

4283
02:47:19,349 --> 02:47:17,920
you have time travel in play the

4284
02:47:21,429 --> 02:47:19,359
universe starts getting to be a lot like

4285
02:47:23,269 --> 02:47:21,439
foreign countries everyone speaks a

4286
02:47:24,950 --> 02:47:23,279
different language but everybody still

4287
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:24,960
eats uh corn flakes so you can still get

4288
02:47:28,550 --> 02:47:26,080
them anywhere on the wall and they got

4289
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:28,560
mcdonald's you know

4290
02:47:35,110 --> 02:47:31,279
right douglas adams was a time traveler

4291
02:47:37,990 --> 02:47:35,990
can i

4292
02:47:39,670 --> 02:47:38,000
let's let's branch off onto douglas

4293
02:47:41,910 --> 02:47:39,680
adams for a second

4294
02:47:43,830 --> 02:47:41,920
um you survive for doctor who

4295
02:47:46,550 --> 02:47:43,840
yeah that's right

4296
02:47:48,070 --> 02:47:46,560
his insight

4297
02:47:51,349 --> 02:47:48,080
of

4298
02:47:53,830 --> 02:47:51,359
science fiction and his approach to it

4299
02:47:56,230 --> 02:47:53,840
was singular i think it was more

4300
02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:56,240
brilliant in a lot of ways than than

4301
02:48:01,670 --> 02:47:58,560
ozzie moff and and

4302
02:48:03,910 --> 02:48:01,680
and and uh arthur c clarke who's who's

4303
02:48:06,950 --> 02:48:03,920
my favorite author but but every time i

4304
02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:06,960
get into douglas adams i'm like

4305
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:09,840
where is this coming from right it's

4306
02:48:15,990 --> 02:48:12,960
like it's like way

4307
02:48:17,830 --> 02:48:16,000
out there such a fascinating

4308
02:48:19,670 --> 02:48:17,840
the waters really made less than a case

4309
02:48:22,469 --> 02:48:19,680
like him where he died so early and on a

4310
02:48:23,590 --> 02:48:22,479
treadmill now he says too um

4311
02:48:25,269 --> 02:48:23,600
right

4312
02:48:27,110 --> 02:48:25,279
you know we had decades of good writing

4313
02:48:28,710 --> 02:48:27,120
on that man and i i missed that and i'm

4314
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:28,720
sure there'd be a time travel you know

4315
02:48:31,910 --> 02:48:30,640
set up somebody goes back in time and

4316
02:48:34,070 --> 02:48:31,920
you know at least brings it forward to

4317
02:48:35,190 --> 02:48:34,080
write small books but he was great the

4318
02:48:37,670 --> 02:48:35,200
only other author i know who kind of

4319
02:48:39,670 --> 02:48:37,680
parallels him in terms of that just that

4320
02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:39,680
uniquely strange view on things was so

4321
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:41,760
terry pratchett who also sadly died he

4322
02:48:45,910 --> 02:48:43,680
was kind of douglas adams equivalent for

4323
02:48:47,190 --> 02:48:45,920
fantasy genre but uh this is a

4324
02:48:49,429 --> 02:48:47,200
fascinating view of the world they're

4325
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:49,439
the only these yeah i

4326
02:48:55,670 --> 02:48:51,840
wish i could write with the creativity

4327
02:48:57,590 --> 02:48:55,680
and humor of of an atoms

4328
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:57,600
it just came from another place man i

4329
02:49:01,670 --> 02:48:59,760
think he was a time traveler he was the

4330
02:49:03,110 --> 02:49:01,680
he was the science fiction version of

4331
02:49:05,830 --> 02:49:03,120
like david bowie

4332
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:05,840
i mean just completely completely way

4333
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:07,359
out

4334
02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:11,840
the more that uh i watch and read and by

4335
02:49:17,750 --> 02:49:16,000
the way um i spent this last year

4336
02:49:19,750 --> 02:49:17,760
uh reading hitchhiker's guide to the

4337
02:49:22,389 --> 02:49:19,760
galaxy now i read it in high school when

4338
02:49:25,990 --> 02:49:22,399
i was a kid you know 40 years ago

4339
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:26,000
um and didn't quite get it i enjoyed it

4340
02:49:30,230 --> 02:49:28,960
i was smoking too much weed but but i i

4341
02:49:32,710 --> 02:49:30,240
enjoyed it

4342
02:49:34,389 --> 02:49:32,720
um but when you go back and you read it

4343
02:49:35,590 --> 02:49:34,399
after you're you know you're smarter and

4344
02:49:38,950 --> 02:49:35,600
you're older

4345
02:49:40,389 --> 02:49:38,960
it is the most complex deepest book i

4346
02:49:42,710 --> 02:49:40,399
think i've ever read

4347
02:49:43,990 --> 02:49:42,720
there is so many layers to it and it's

4348
02:49:45,110 --> 02:49:44,000
one of the advantages of i'm trying to

4349
02:49:47,429 --> 02:49:45,120
think of there's another couple authors

4350
02:49:50,230 --> 02:49:47,439
to do meta stuff when you are writing

4351
02:49:51,429 --> 02:49:50,240
the deconstructions of a series when you

4352
02:49:52,950 --> 02:49:51,439
get to be the one who's doing the

4353
02:49:55,830 --> 02:49:52,960
deconstruction of a genre things like

4354
02:49:58,550 --> 02:49:55,840
that you can pack so much into it that

4355
02:50:00,070 --> 02:49:58,560
that's otherwise not there um

4356
02:50:01,190 --> 02:50:00,080
dennis e taylor i'm a friend of mine

4357
02:50:03,349 --> 02:50:01,200
actually i can't believe i forgot him on

4358
02:50:05,670 --> 02:50:03,359
this he also he does serious sci-fi but

4359
02:50:08,070 --> 02:50:05,680
he does sci-fi written for people who

4360
02:50:09,349 --> 02:50:08,080
who definitely know their genre and

4361
02:50:11,269 --> 02:50:09,359
there's the same thing and there's so

4362
02:50:12,710 --> 02:50:11,279
many deconstructions of

4363
02:50:14,230 --> 02:50:12,720
concepts that we take for granted those

4364
02:50:16,230 --> 02:50:14,240
of us who have been growing up on star

4365
02:50:17,429 --> 02:50:16,240
trek and doctor who and just kind of

4366
02:50:19,510 --> 02:50:17,439
looks for them and it's kind of what i

4367
02:50:21,910 --> 02:50:19,520
try to do on the show too so i i

4368
02:50:24,230 --> 02:50:21,920
probably am biased on the matter i love

4369
02:50:25,429 --> 02:50:24,240
that yeah i don't write fiction per se

4370
02:50:27,190 --> 02:50:25,439
but i love

4371
02:50:29,750 --> 02:50:27,200
being able to discuss those ideas in a

4372
02:50:31,190 --> 02:50:29,760
scientific context and you'll be able to

4373
02:50:33,030 --> 02:50:31,200
describe you know deconstruct those

4374
02:50:35,349 --> 02:50:33,040
cliches and things like that it's like a

4375
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:35,359
whole alien civilization series

4376
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:37,439
um and

4377
02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:39,600
folks like adams

4378
02:50:43,590 --> 02:50:40,880
you know say well yeah he's writing for

4379
02:50:44,950 --> 02:50:43,600
parody he's writing for satire but

4380
02:50:46,950 --> 02:50:44,960
that is

4381
02:50:48,550 --> 02:50:46,960
one of the most

4382
02:50:49,830 --> 02:50:48,560
beautiful ways to actually look at the

4383
02:50:51,590 --> 02:50:49,840
universe and one of the most important

4384
02:50:53,990 --> 02:50:51,600
ones is through that satire on parity

4385
02:50:55,830 --> 02:50:54,000
tones you know viewpoint and we you know

4386
02:50:57,910 --> 02:50:55,840
most scientists these least in physics

4387
02:50:59,670 --> 02:50:57,920
are pretty open to acknowledging they

4388
02:51:01,590 --> 02:50:59,680
got their sci-fi roots but you had a

4389
02:51:03,190 --> 02:51:01,600
period in time where most of them do

4390
02:51:05,510 --> 02:51:03,200
they do not want to look at or discuss a

4391
02:51:06,870 --> 02:51:05,520
lot of the sci-fi notions

4392
02:51:07,910 --> 02:51:06,880
that often with what got them interested

4393
02:51:10,309 --> 02:51:07,920
in science in the first place were

4394
02:51:12,309 --> 02:51:10,319
fiona's being seen as not serious or

4395
02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:12,319
getting rejected by their academic peers

4396
02:51:16,309 --> 02:51:14,479
i'm very glad to say that period of

4397
02:51:18,150 --> 02:51:16,319
snobbery and fear seems to have passed

4398
02:51:19,349 --> 02:51:18,160
too and that uh scientists don't seem to

4399
02:51:21,030 --> 02:51:19,359
have any problem talking about a lot of

4400
02:51:22,230 --> 02:51:21,040
these concepts the same thing with like

4401
02:51:24,070 --> 02:51:22,240
the department of defense we talked

4402
02:51:26,150 --> 02:51:24,080
about well whether or not you believe in

4403
02:51:27,910 --> 02:51:26,160
ufos it was really weird that for

4404
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:27,920
decades they acted as though it was

4405
02:51:31,510 --> 02:51:29,680
impossible and crazy that we might have

4406
02:51:33,910 --> 02:51:31,520
had one and so that wasn't really

4407
02:51:35,429 --> 02:51:33,920
logical or scientific and even for those

4408
02:51:36,950 --> 02:51:35,439
of us who were on the skeptical side

4409
02:51:38,790 --> 02:51:36,960
with strange behavior but they didn't

4410
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:38,800
want to be seen as going to that crazy

4411
02:51:42,870 --> 02:51:40,720
discussion area now it's okay to talk

4412
02:51:44,469 --> 02:51:42,880
about you know now it's okay to talk

4413
02:51:46,469 --> 02:51:44,479
about sightings or things like that as

4414
02:51:48,790 --> 02:51:46,479
though they were not something that's

4415
02:51:50,710 --> 02:51:48,800
just for folks uh who might be a little

4416
02:51:52,309 --> 02:51:50,720
off their aqua and it's actually not

4417
02:51:54,790 --> 02:51:52,319
popular without them to talk about a bit

4418
02:51:56,550 --> 02:51:54,800
so i am glad to see that kind of thing

4419
02:51:59,190 --> 02:51:56,560
and that there's no longer that fear to

4420
02:52:00,710 --> 02:51:59,200
discuss the sci-fi use ideas or the on

4421
02:52:02,469 --> 02:52:00,720
the edge ideas as though you're going to

4422
02:52:03,830 --> 02:52:02,479
ruin your career for looking at them as

4423
02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:03,840
serious light

4424
02:52:08,150 --> 02:52:06,160
well isn't that the case though that

4425
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:08,160
uh with uh

4426
02:52:11,830 --> 02:52:10,160
you know douglas adams or star trek or

4427
02:52:13,349 --> 02:52:11,840
azimov or

4428
02:52:17,349 --> 02:52:13,359
arthur c clarke

4429
02:52:20,309 --> 02:52:17,359
where it is fiction based in science but

4430
02:52:22,790 --> 02:52:20,319
the creativity part of that

4431
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:22,800
is what is missing with a lot of

4432
02:52:27,750 --> 02:52:25,359
engineers and engineering students you

4433
02:52:30,389 --> 02:52:27,760
can geek out on numbers

4434
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:30,399
you need the stimulus you need the

4435
02:52:35,110 --> 02:52:32,399
creativity side

4436
02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:35,120
uh and then you can go and run with the

4437
02:52:39,030 --> 02:52:37,120
idea like the warp drive right well the

4438
02:52:40,550 --> 02:52:39,040
warp drive was just something that was

4439
02:52:42,550 --> 02:52:40,560
that was in science fiction or

4440
02:52:44,550 --> 02:52:42,560
satellites or whatever you know arthur c

4441
02:52:46,790 --> 02:52:44,560
clarke did and things but

4442
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:46,800
if you plant the seed

4443
02:52:52,710 --> 02:52:49,920
with a real engineer that can deal with

4444
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:52,720
the quantum side of things and and and

4445
02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:54,880
steer your way through the map then you

4446
02:52:59,030 --> 02:52:57,279
can invent these things and that's what

4447
02:53:00,950 --> 02:52:59,040
science fiction has always given us

4448
02:53:02,630 --> 02:53:00,960
right if you can't invent them then you

4449
02:53:04,790 --> 02:53:02,640
can at least explore the idea or maybe

4450
02:53:05,910 --> 02:53:04,800
find some parallel that works you know a

4451
02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:05,920
lot of things that we come up with in

4452
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:07,120
sci-fi are probably going to turn out to

4453
02:53:10,790 --> 02:53:08,800
be impossible in long run but there will

4454
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:10,800
be something that we didn't see coming

4455
02:53:14,790 --> 02:53:12,479
this is not the war that was predicted

4456
02:53:16,950 --> 02:53:14,800
by star trek in some ways it's better in

4457
02:53:18,389 --> 02:53:16,960
some ways it's worse i think canon wise

4458
02:53:19,990 --> 02:53:18,399
we should be a nuclear landscape at the

4459
02:53:21,990 --> 02:53:20,000
moment having blown up i can't remember

4460
02:53:24,469 --> 02:53:22,000
quite what the timeline went there but

4461
02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:24,479
it is it's a reality that you have to

4462
02:53:27,910 --> 02:53:25,840
have folks

4463
02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:27,920
playing with the creative idea of things

4464
02:53:31,590 --> 02:53:29,920
and some of the best sci-fi is written

4465
02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:31,600
by guys who have doctorates in the field

4466
02:53:35,990 --> 02:53:34,240
like well david brin you know uh he's an

4467
02:53:37,910 --> 02:53:36,000
absolute master of telling good stories

4468
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:37,920
and he is a good scientist too on top of

4469
02:53:42,230 --> 02:53:39,600
like gregory benford or alastair

4470
02:53:43,830 --> 02:53:42,240
reynolds others you know uh rogers lazy

4471
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:43,840
one of my favorite sci-fi right was very

4472
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:45,920
creative played a lot with uh you know

4473
02:53:50,230 --> 02:53:47,920
existential dread things like that he

4474
02:53:51,269 --> 02:53:50,240
was uh his master's was literature not a

4475
02:53:52,790 --> 02:53:51,279
scientist

4476
02:53:53,990 --> 02:53:52,800
he knew a fair amount about it you know

4477
02:53:56,230 --> 02:53:54,000
because you don't have to actually

4478
02:53:58,630 --> 02:53:56,240
degree in things know them but uh that

4479
02:54:00,389 --> 02:53:58,640
was not his area you know

4480
02:54:02,790 --> 02:54:00,399
a lot of good fiction does not require

4481
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:02,800
that background yeah it's funny that you

4482
02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:05,200
say that because when we look at some of

4483
02:54:07,670 --> 02:54:06,800
the greats and everybody wants to talk

4484
02:54:09,910 --> 02:54:07,680
about

4485
02:54:11,830 --> 02:54:09,920
azam off and and well even gene

4486
02:54:13,990 --> 02:54:11,840
roddenberry and of course our thirsty

4487
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:14,000
clark was the lack of character

4488
02:54:17,510 --> 02:54:15,920
development right

4489
02:54:19,110 --> 02:54:17,520
i love asthma if i'm literally named for

4490
02:54:21,910 --> 02:54:19,120
the guy but he was not good at character

4491
02:54:25,429 --> 02:54:21,920
development zero

4492
02:54:27,750 --> 02:54:25,439
zero and i mean to excuse if if you're

4493
02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:27,760
interested in characters and personality

4494
02:54:32,150 --> 02:54:29,439
and conversation the last thing you want

4495
02:54:34,790 --> 02:54:32,160
to do is read a arthur c clarke book

4496
02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:34,800
you know and he brought in gentry lee to

4497
02:54:39,750 --> 02:54:37,920
uh kind of uh some of that it helped and

4498
02:54:41,510 --> 02:54:39,760
i i mean i liked the first sequel that

4499
02:54:43,590 --> 02:54:41,520
he did eventually i didn't care for the

4500
02:54:44,870 --> 02:54:43,600
next two books after that but uh and

4501
02:54:46,150 --> 02:54:44,880
then that's not knocking either

4502
02:54:48,950 --> 02:54:46,160
obviously they're both very very good

4503
02:54:50,630 --> 02:54:48,960
writers uh but uh i didn't feel like i'm

4504
02:54:52,469 --> 02:54:50,640
really looking forward to seeing what

4505
02:54:54,550 --> 02:54:52,479
i've never announced his last name right

4506
02:54:56,070 --> 02:54:54,560
the gentleman who just directed dune

4507
02:54:58,230 --> 02:54:56,080
he's going to be doing money with robert

4508
02:55:00,630 --> 02:54:58,240
yeah yeah i i i can never say his last

4509
02:55:01,670 --> 02:55:00,640
name that's villanova

4510
02:55:06,870 --> 02:55:01,680
yeah

4511
02:55:08,309 --> 02:55:06,880
re-watched uh the new version of dune

4512
02:55:09,190 --> 02:55:08,319
you know what i'm going to say it's not

4513
02:55:11,110 --> 02:55:09,200
bad

4514
02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:11,120
it's not the new version yeah i love the

4515
02:55:16,070 --> 02:55:14,000
new version it's not bad it's not bad

4516
02:55:17,990 --> 02:55:16,080
one time the david lynch dune was my

4517
02:55:21,990 --> 02:55:18,000
second favorite movie i have to blade

4518
02:55:23,590 --> 02:55:22,000
runner and um you know

4519
02:55:25,670 --> 02:55:23,600
yeah i still love the david lynch

4520
02:55:27,830 --> 02:55:25,680
version you know what i do

4521
02:55:30,150 --> 02:55:27,840
okay all right i'm just gonna say this

4522
02:55:32,550 --> 02:55:30,160
we're in overtime so i can be i can be i

4523
02:55:35,190 --> 02:55:32,560
can border on being a little bit of a

4524
02:55:37,190 --> 02:55:35,200
dick here timothy what's his last name

4525
02:55:38,870 --> 02:55:37,200
chalamet or what however you say his

4526
02:55:40,630 --> 02:55:38,880
last name um

4527
02:55:41,830 --> 02:55:40,640
his character

4528
02:55:42,830 --> 02:55:41,840
um

4529
02:55:44,389 --> 02:55:42,840
is

4530
02:55:49,269 --> 02:55:44,399
too

4531
02:55:50,070 --> 02:55:49,279
he runs and jumps in the arms of uh

4532
02:55:53,349 --> 02:55:50,080
of

4533
02:55:56,230 --> 02:55:53,359
way too many times

4534
02:55:57,269 --> 02:55:56,240
you know and jumps on him and does it

4535
02:55:59,429 --> 02:55:57,279
there's

4536
02:56:01,110 --> 02:55:59,439
i i don't understand that i think

4537
02:56:02,309 --> 02:56:01,120
they're trying to you know every time

4538
02:56:03,830 --> 02:56:02,319
they try to produce this movie they're

4539
02:56:05,110 --> 02:56:03,840
trying to start by showing a young paul

4540
02:56:06,790 --> 02:56:05,120
and he's got involved in a much more

4541
02:56:08,870 --> 02:56:06,800
serious character but right it was an

4542
02:56:10,309 --> 02:56:08,880
example of a surprise i've loved jason

4543
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:10,319
momoa since he first appeared in

4544
02:56:13,990 --> 02:56:12,240
stargate atlantis even though i i really

4545
02:56:16,870 --> 02:56:14,000
like the character it plays uh by i

4546
02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:16,880
can't was his full name rainbow um but

4547
02:56:20,469 --> 02:56:18,720
um i was when i heard he was being cast

4548
02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:20,479
in that movie i thought oh they're gonna

4549
02:56:24,389 --> 02:56:23,200
have him play in stilgar or bistro band

4550
02:56:26,389 --> 02:56:24,399
and they're like casting his dunkin

4551
02:56:29,670 --> 02:56:26,399
hunter i was like what yeah yeah but no

4552
02:56:31,910 --> 02:56:29,680
he he did that well amazing he goes with

4553
02:56:34,309 --> 02:56:31,920
that one yeah no no no no you're right

4554
02:56:37,670 --> 02:56:34,319
about that he was great in that part

4555
02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:37,680
but you can't have paul atreides

4556
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:38,640
um

4557
02:56:42,870 --> 02:56:41,520
running oh you know dunk you know and

4558
02:56:46,070 --> 02:56:42,880
and jump in it

4559
02:56:47,110 --> 02:56:46,080
it it they always i i love all three of

4560
02:56:49,349 --> 02:56:47,120
the the

4561
02:56:51,349 --> 02:56:49,359
film adaptations including the dune mini

4562
02:56:53,110 --> 02:56:51,359
series on sci-fi but

4563
02:56:56,070 --> 02:56:53,120
when they've always tried to show polish

4564
02:56:57,349 --> 02:56:56,080
jungle sai he always comes off as like

4565
02:57:00,790 --> 02:56:57,359
in the mini series he comes off as a

4566
02:57:04,389 --> 02:57:02,550
for some reason the young poe is not not

4567
02:57:06,309 --> 02:57:04,399
somebody you really want to know or like

4568
02:57:08,309 --> 02:57:06,319
um but i mean the movie has its

4569
02:57:09,429 --> 02:57:08,319
weaknesses we watching it uh you know

4570
02:57:11,429 --> 02:57:09,439
it's it's definitely there there are

4571
02:57:13,269 --> 02:57:11,439
some some structural ones of native ones

4572
02:57:15,670 --> 02:57:13,279
but i still say it's an amazing

4573
02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:15,680
adaptation so i loved it it's so good i

4574
02:57:20,550 --> 02:57:18,399
can't wait for the next uh the next i i

4575
02:57:21,990 --> 02:57:20,560
knew when it ended i was like man

4576
02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:22,000
they're saying that they don't know if

4577
02:57:24,950 --> 02:57:23,359
they're gonna

4578
02:57:27,030 --> 02:57:24,960
that was written

4579
02:57:29,110 --> 02:57:27,040
they're already in production well it's

4580
02:57:30,870 --> 02:57:29,120
like the original foundation novel uh

4581
02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:30,880
your short story as we've left the

4582
02:57:34,550 --> 02:57:33,520
ending off uh as being really obvious

4583
02:57:36,389 --> 02:57:34,560
because it wouldn't even be said was

4584
02:57:38,870 --> 02:57:36,399
really just to make sure the publisher

4585
02:57:41,030 --> 02:57:38,880
had a space fun to do with part two and

4586
02:57:42,710 --> 02:57:41,040
when i get paid you know that's all that

4587
02:57:43,429 --> 02:57:42,720
elsa used to say oh yeah you paid for

4588
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:43,439
this

4589
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:46,560
um but uh i think that you know they

4590
02:57:49,429 --> 02:57:48,080
left that they are knowing that they

4591
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:49,439
probably would get renewed unless it was

4592
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:51,040
bad in which case i was gonna no one's

4593
02:57:54,389 --> 02:57:52,560
gonna like you do a bad adaptation that

4594
02:57:55,429 --> 02:57:54,399
ends halfway through nobody cares

4595
02:57:57,590 --> 02:57:55,439
because they don't wanna remember the

4596
02:57:59,750 --> 02:57:57,600
movie even existed battlefield auth

4597
02:58:01,670 --> 02:57:59,760
that's just the first half of that book

4598
02:58:03,269 --> 02:58:01,680
and i gotta say that that was the first

4599
02:58:04,469 --> 02:58:03,279
time i always thought you saw a movie

4600
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:04,479
and you read the book the book's gonna

4601
02:58:08,469 --> 02:58:06,880
be good better than the book movie was

4602
02:58:10,309 --> 02:58:08,479
my roommate suggested i read the book

4603
02:58:11,750 --> 02:58:10,319
after i saw it because i hated the film

4604
02:58:13,670 --> 02:58:11,760
and i didn't care for the book much at

4605
02:58:15,590 --> 02:58:13,680
all it was quite possibly the worst

4606
02:58:17,030 --> 02:58:15,600
movie ever made in the history of

4607
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:17,040
hollywood

4608
02:58:20,950 --> 02:58:19,200
certainly the best known blockbuster

4609
02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:20,960
failure i mean

4610
02:58:23,510 --> 02:58:22,240
for the amount of money thrown at that

4611
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:23,520
that should have been a lot better of a

4612
02:58:27,190 --> 02:58:25,120
fail and i don't like to beat up on it

4613
02:58:29,510 --> 02:58:27,200
across the board because like

4614
02:58:32,230 --> 02:58:29,520
it's horrible it's horrible

4615
02:58:34,550 --> 02:58:32,240
i mean and travolta who we all love and

4616
02:58:36,630 --> 02:58:34,560
he's never really messed up a role

4617
02:58:38,389 --> 02:58:36,640
except for that except for that

4618
02:58:40,630 --> 02:58:38,399
you know what i've watched uh we're at

4619
02:58:41,990 --> 02:58:40,640
the end of the night but i i do want to

4620
02:58:45,510 --> 02:58:42,000
say this though

4621
02:58:48,469 --> 02:58:45,520
i have watched over and over again and i

4622
02:58:51,670 --> 02:58:48,479
i i'm never getting tired of it

4623
02:58:54,389 --> 02:58:51,680
is the three-part childhood's end

4624
02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:54,399
i think it's an extraordinary adaptation

4625
02:58:58,389 --> 02:58:56,479
and and i'm glad that they did it in

4626
02:59:01,910 --> 02:58:58,399
three parts because it's too complex of

4627
02:59:03,750 --> 02:59:01,920
a of a story but i think that is that is

4628
02:59:06,469 --> 02:59:03,760
right up there with the best of the best

4629
02:59:08,950 --> 02:59:06,479
yeah i think one thing i would say is we

4630
02:59:11,269 --> 02:59:08,960
have a lot more adaptations into tv now

4631
02:59:12,710 --> 02:59:11,279
than a longer series and i'm i think a

4632
02:59:15,110 --> 02:59:12,720
lot of things will do better in that

4633
02:59:16,630 --> 02:59:15,120
format too although i was surprised they

4634
02:59:18,870 --> 02:59:16,640
decided to find you the foundation as

4635
02:59:20,630 --> 02:59:18,880
one and that they made all the normal

4636
02:59:21,510 --> 02:59:20,640
changes you'd expect for a condensed

4637
02:59:22,950 --> 02:59:21,520
movie

4638
02:59:24,469 --> 02:59:22,960
when they could do their time in the

4639
02:59:26,870 --> 02:59:24,479
budget to actually done it right and

4640
02:59:27,990 --> 02:59:26,880
while i did love the cleon subtract i

4641
02:59:29,670 --> 02:59:28,000
still haven't seen the end of the fourth

4642
02:59:31,349 --> 02:59:29,680
season yet because i got very

4643
02:59:34,230 --> 02:59:31,359
disenchanted with what was going on the

4644
02:59:36,150 --> 02:59:34,240
main plot line there so but uh you know

4645
02:59:38,150 --> 02:59:36,160
it had the visuals and had good

4646
02:59:40,710 --> 02:59:38,160
storytelling if it had not actually been

4647
02:59:43,670 --> 02:59:40,720
the foundation it was a great sci-fi fun

4648
02:59:45,910 --> 02:59:43,680
for myself

4649
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:45,920
have done it right and they still

4650
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:48,080
decided to change the script i you know

4651
02:59:50,630 --> 02:59:49,920
what i did with foundation

4652
02:59:56,710 --> 02:59:50,640
i

4653
02:59:59,830 --> 02:59:56,720
just accepted

4654
03:00:02,309 --> 02:59:59,840
it as as it was and and so i will say

4655
03:00:04,550 --> 03:00:02,319
that if you enjoyed it for itself and

4656
03:00:06,309 --> 03:00:04,560
you hadn't read the books it's great

4657
03:00:08,790 --> 03:00:06,319
just right just treat like starship

4658
03:00:10,230 --> 03:00:08,800
troopers the movie right yeah i had not

4659
03:00:12,309 --> 03:00:10,240
read starship troopers the book when i

4660
03:00:14,070 --> 03:00:12,319
saw the film they have nothing to do

4661
03:00:15,910 --> 03:00:14,080
with each other at all and i really

4662
03:00:17,830 --> 03:00:15,920
think paul verhoeven should have done a

4663
03:00:19,429 --> 03:00:17,840
different name right you know he

4664
03:00:20,950 --> 03:00:19,439
probably deserves a kick in the butt for

4665
03:00:23,030 --> 03:00:20,960
that one but

4666
03:00:25,110 --> 03:00:23,040
one's a good movie it's pulpits camp

4667
03:00:27,429 --> 03:00:25,120
yellow is a great book they are

4668
03:00:29,670 --> 03:00:27,439
unrelated except for theoretical names

4669
03:00:31,750 --> 03:00:29,680
well you know i went back and read

4670
03:00:33,510 --> 03:00:31,760
starship troopers the book after i saw

4671
03:00:34,870 --> 03:00:33,520
the movie and you're right two different

4672
03:00:37,110 --> 03:00:34,880
things but man

4673
03:00:39,510 --> 03:00:37,120
that is uh

4674
03:00:41,190 --> 03:00:39,520
that is a racist

4675
03:00:42,070 --> 03:00:41,200
gnarly

4676
03:00:44,790 --> 03:00:42,080
uh

4677
03:00:46,389 --> 03:00:44,800
difficult to read this is a weird one

4678
03:00:48,550 --> 03:00:46,399
because so much the beautiful that was

4679
03:00:50,870 --> 03:00:48,560
to actually have the last page where the

4680
03:00:52,309 --> 03:00:50,880
characters revealed to be hispanic

4681
03:00:53,990 --> 03:00:52,319
rather than you know the traditional

4682
03:00:55,590 --> 03:00:54,000
white guy however i don't think it

4683
03:00:56,550 --> 03:00:55,600
really quite worked out as ideally as it

4684
03:00:57,830 --> 03:00:56,560
would you know a lot of times when

4685
03:00:59,590 --> 03:00:57,840
people try to

4686
03:01:01,030 --> 03:00:59,600
you read a lot of old sci-fi they are

4687
03:01:02,950 --> 03:01:01,040
trying to be

4688
03:01:05,110 --> 03:01:02,960
the the you know non-bigoted

4689
03:01:07,670 --> 03:01:05,120
forward-thinking people and yet often

4690
03:01:09,750 --> 03:01:07,680
reads very bad for its time oh it's

4691
03:01:13,030 --> 03:01:09,760
insane and you can't even like i love

4692
03:01:15,910 --> 03:01:13,040
lovecraft uh but oh yeah that guy was so

4693
03:01:17,429 --> 03:01:15,920
racist it's so racist

4694
03:01:20,230 --> 03:01:17,439
racist

4695
03:01:22,150 --> 03:01:20,240
uh isaac what a what a great show and

4696
03:01:24,070 --> 03:01:22,160
now what night of the week uh do you

4697
03:01:25,990 --> 03:01:24,080
come out with your new episodes well the

4698
03:01:28,389 --> 03:01:26,000
new episode could be coming out at uh

4699
03:01:30,630 --> 03:01:28,399
thursday morning in exactly eight hours

4700
03:01:32,950 --> 03:01:30,640
will you hang out with million refugees

4701
03:01:34,710 --> 03:01:32,960
and if you love the fermi paradox and

4702
03:01:36,550 --> 03:01:34,720
time travel concepts we got a bunch of

4703
03:01:39,510 --> 03:01:36,560
them for the rest of the month our

4704
03:01:41,750 --> 03:01:39,520
time wars episode and our fermi paradox

4705
03:01:43,510 --> 03:01:41,760
uh technological time bombs episode

4706
03:01:46,870 --> 03:01:43,520
coming up in this month

4707
03:01:48,710 --> 03:01:46,880
great filter number 986

4708
03:01:51,510 --> 03:01:48,720
will be revealed

4709
03:01:53,990 --> 03:01:51,520
isaac you are the absolute very best my

4710
03:01:56,710 --> 03:01:54,000
friend congratulations to your success

4711
03:01:59,590 --> 03:01:56,720
you you deserve all of it but it just

4712
03:02:02,230 --> 03:01:59,600
tells me that uh this world

4713
03:02:04,710 --> 03:02:02,240
loves this stuff and you're an example

4714
03:02:06,230 --> 03:02:04,720
of why so thank you so much my friend

4715
03:02:08,309 --> 03:02:06,240
thank you for having me on maggie and

4716
03:02:10,070 --> 03:02:08,319
it's been great you're the best man

4717
03:02:12,469 --> 03:02:10,080
isaac arthur thank you so much we just

4718
03:02:14,710 --> 03:02:12,479
went i'm looking at the clock here i've

4719
03:02:16,870 --> 03:02:14,720
got to get out of here i'm about to get

4720
03:02:18,950 --> 03:02:16,880
kicked off the network in about 15

4721
03:02:21,030 --> 03:02:18,960
seconds so i am going to get straight to

4722
03:02:22,790 --> 03:02:21,040
it thank you so much isaac isaac stay

4723
03:02:24,150 --> 03:02:22,800
right there we'll say good night here in

4724
03:02:26,070 --> 03:02:24,160
a couple of minutes

4725
03:02:27,640 --> 03:02:26,080
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4726
03:02:28,790 --> 03:02:27,650
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4727
03:02:30,870 --> 03:02:28,800
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4728
03:02:33,110 --> 03:02:30,880
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4729
03:02:35,670 --> 03:02:33,120
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4730
03:02:37,990 --> 03:02:35,680
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4731
03:02:39,910 --> 03:02:38,000
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4732
03:02:41,510 --> 03:02:39,920
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4733
03:02:43,670 --> 03:02:41,520
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4734
03:02:45,510 --> 03:02:43,680
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4735
03:02:47,349 --> 03:02:45,520
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4736
03:02:48,870 --> 03:02:47,359
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4737
03:02:50,469 --> 03:02:48,880
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4738
03:02:52,070 --> 03:02:50,479
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4739
03:02:53,990 --> 03:02:52,080
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4740
03:02:56,550 --> 03:02:54,000
see everybody tomorrow night for fader

4741
03:02:58,630 --> 03:02:56,560
night until then be safe

4742
03:03:06,890 --> 03:02:58,640
go backly tappy